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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #5 – Durham, NH 09/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 09/05/2007 3:55:52 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

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To: alicewonders

-You’d think FOX would have learned after the last debate. Why don’t they let people vote on the internet?

Evidently you’ve never seen the results from the online polling of all the other network GOP debates. Ron Paul won them all.


2,081 posted on 09/06/2007 7:52:52 AM PDT by WWRPD
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To: acoulterfan

-Young anti-war people know how to text message. Many of the other candidates prospective voters don’t have cell phones or like myself, haven’t the faintest idea how to send a text message, LOL.

Even though I myself being a Ron Paul supporter do not know how to text message. I can also use the same excuse when the opposition says that Paul in not a viable canidate because he doesn’t show up in the gallop poll. Most of us “young anti-illegal-Iraq-war people” do not have land lines which the gallop poll and other “scientific” polls only use. Only the primaries will tell. I live and Iowa and it looks like our primary will move up to December. Which zealous supporters do you think will show up around Christmas time in the snow and freezing temperatures?


2,082 posted on 09/06/2007 7:52:52 AM PDT by WWRPD
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To: WWRPD
70% of Americans.

That's insane.

2,083 posted on 09/06/2007 7:53:27 AM PDT by Petronski (Cleveland Indians: Pennant -17)
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To: Eaker

If you are calling me a terrorist cuz I am against terrorists hvg boxcutters OR guns on planes, you are a reactionary, a Johnny one note whose only issue is gun rights. I’m not a sheep, Eaker freeper. I’m not even a republican. I’m an independent which is very un-sheeplike behavior.


2,084 posted on 09/06/2007 7:55:00 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Anti-Euthanasia Ping List: 8mmmauser DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT OF U.S.)
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To: WalterSkinner
WADR your critique is biased and just plain silly...

Biased? I've been a Hunter supporter from the beginning. I want him to succeed.

Hunter gets few enough opportunities that he needs to make the most of every one of them. This answer didn't work and no matter what the MSM does it's his responsibility to make the most of it. I'm certain he would take it that way as an opportunity to improve.

Grow up.

2,085 posted on 09/06/2007 7:58:49 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: dragnet2
My pc totally froze and I never made it bk last night. Anyway, Fox News was on speed, not the audience at large. The pace of their programming was beyond quick. It was quite nervewracking and my poor computer couldn't take it. Back to you Carl for some fast talking. Fast talking has negative connotations. That's what Fox did last night. It wasn't speed. It was a technique.

Thursday a.m. BREAKING NOW: Another terrorist attack might be imminent. "Special gift coming on blessed day of Manhattan." Calling it a wedding.

2,086 posted on 09/06/2007 8:01:15 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Anti-Euthanasia Ping List: 8mmmauser DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT OF U.S.)
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To: floriduh voter

You infer much when I implied nothing.

Yet you imply much about me knowing nothing about me.

Thinking that weapons can be kept off of planes is sheep behavior. Allowing non-sheep the right to protect themselves will do a lot more in keeping air travel safe.

Simply because you don’t understand doesn’t mean that I don’t understand.


2,087 posted on 09/06/2007 8:02:14 AM PDT by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: jackieaxe

“Ron Paul is the only republican candidate who would cut the federal budget. All the others talk about slowing down the growth of the federal government. I am realistic the Ron Paul will not be nominated, but he’s a good republican and deserves better than the abuse he gets here in a so-called conservative web site.”

I agree with you there. While I didn’t like his answer regarding Iran, I do love his stand regarding the budget and eliminating departments. What I like about him the most is that he means what he says and would actually do it if given the chance. For that reason alone, I may vote for him myself.


2,088 posted on 09/06/2007 8:07:44 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: cbkaty

I just don’t get how Ron Paul fits into the Republican Party.

A real fun debate would be between Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. Can anyone even imagine those two nominated and debating?


2,089 posted on 09/06/2007 8:07:52 AM PDT by Sonora
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To: Carry_Okie; pissant; Calpernia; Paperdoll
..like I said

If you really have been following his campaign and heard all of his responses and commentary on this and similar scenarios, you would have held your little academic critique of this man who is fighting an uphill battle.

Supporters who may have criticisms do not spray paint them on the wall for the world to see.

And the grow up comment was unwarranted--but I support your right to say it...

2,090 posted on 09/06/2007 8:19:49 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Eaker

I’m more concerned about ground to air technology regarding aircraft. Anyway, there is chatter we are going to get hit again. Duck and cover.


2,091 posted on 09/06/2007 8:25:12 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Anti-Euthanasia Ping List: 8mmmauser DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT OF U.S.)
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To: Carry_Okie; WalterSkinner

His answer worked for me. Because it showed that he’s the only one that knows what the hell he is talking about, while the others voice vague platitudes. Too technical for a debate, maybe. But it certainly was not a screw up. He could have parroted what the others were saying but chose a different angle. I’ll give the technical part of the answer a b- and the preface, ‘that one shouldn’t try to answer this in 60 seconds’ an A-. And the fact he talked over his allotted time an A+.


2,092 posted on 09/06/2007 8:26:34 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Sonora
70% of Americans agree with Paul and Geo Washington on dangers of entangling alliances plus the voters on Fox.


2,093 posted on 09/06/2007 8:32:21 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: WalterSkinner
If you really have been following his campaign and heard all of his responses and commentary on this and similar scenarios, you would have held your little academic critique of this man who is fighting an uphill battle.

Like I said, if you really wanted him to win, you'd know that it was constructive criticism.

Supporters who may have criticisms do not spray paint them on the wall for the world to see.

A thousand posts down a thread on FreeRepublic is not spray-painting on the wall. Further, it is obvious that Mr. Hunter is no Reagan as a communicator, yet. He could learn to be one in his own way, but he has a long way to go there. He's never going to be as glib as Rudy or as slick as Romney, and shouldn't aspire to be. He has to find a way to improve on his own style and from what I can see, he is getting better. Making a suggestion on how to improve does not disparage his standing here. Further, I seriously doubt that had I called the Hunter campaign or sent them an email they would had heard a word of it.

So if your belief is that we should all be jumping up and down with pom-poms, "leave it to the professionals" that I've seen botch God only knows how many campaigns, and never say a contrary word, fuggetaboudit.

And the grow up comment was unwarranted--but I support your right to say it...

Oh you great judge and jury of all probity and strategy, grow up.

2,094 posted on 09/06/2007 8:34:44 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie

>>>He did not clearly explain and emphasize the premise for the inevitability of military action against the prospect of a nuclear Iran:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1889805/posts
Duncan Hunter Calls for Iran Strike Soon


2,095 posted on 09/06/2007 8:34:54 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: mnehrling

I have no idea; I’m a petroleum engineer.


2,096 posted on 09/06/2007 8:35:47 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: ex-snook

I’d advise you to look at what the paulites do to straw polls and online polls before you jump to that conclusion. Ron Paul only sealed his fate as a laugher after this debate.


2,097 posted on 09/06/2007 8:36:49 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
His answer worked for me.

I'm sure it did. I'm more concerned that he not scare off people who would otherwise find his positions on other issues attractive. I'd give it a C, with the rest in the A category. Unfortunately, that's not how you want to finish. On the whole, I was very happy with his presentation.

2,098 posted on 09/06/2007 8:39:04 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I’m not so sure it will scare off too many conservatives, especially ones who think we should have already taken Iran to the woodshed by now. But it was not the lofty rhetoric that people remember, like calling Rudy McRomeny the Kennedy wing of the party.


2,099 posted on 09/06/2007 8:41:44 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: khnyny

Word out that aq is gonna hit the U.S. again. Maybe that it will be New York City is a fakeout and they’ll hit the U.S. somewhere else. Anyway, what happened to the color terror alerts? Did they get retired?


2,100 posted on 09/06/2007 8:44:28 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Anti-Euthanasia Ping List: 8mmmauser DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT OF U.S.)
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