Posted on 09/03/2007 3:19:20 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
Today was an eventful day. I drove to Cleveland, reunited with my father’s side of the family and got arrested. More on that arrested part to come.
For the labor day weekend my father decided to host a small family reunion. My sister flew in from California and I drove in from Pittsburgh to visit my father, his wife and my little brother and sister. Shortly after arriving we packed the whole family into my father’s Buick and headed off to the grocery store to buy some ingredients to make monkeybread. (It’s my little sister’s birthday today and that was her cute/bizare birthday request.)
Next to the grocery store was a Circuit City. (The Brooklyn, Ohio Circuit City to be exact.) Having forgotten that it was my sister’s birthday I decided to run in and buy her a last minute gift. I settled on Disney’s “Cars” game for the Nintendo Wii. I also needed to purchase a Power Squid surge protector which I paid for separately with my business credit card. As I headed towards the exit doors I passed a gentleman whose name I would later learn is Santura. As I began to walk towards the doors Santura said, “Sir, I need to examine your receipt.” I responded by continuing to walk past him while saying, “No thank you.”
As I walked through the double doors I heard Santura yelling for his manager behind me. My father and the family had the Buick pulled up waiting for me outside the doors to Circuit City. I opened the door and got into the back seat while Santura and his manager, whose name I have since learned is Joe Atha, came running up to the vehicle.
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She was at Mervyns where there would only be 1 or 2 of them on duty. Now there's 3 or 4. I was departmental training officer for a corrections agency and I had a long talk with her about the company's expectations without training.
I told her they're 1 incident away from serious liability problems from employees and customers.
Somehow she gets most of them to come to her office and they wait for the cops. With several other employees there.
If the suspect jumped, they'd wet themselves. Some of the ones I've seen.
When she was new, she tackled a guy who swung on another employee. I asked her what the hell did she think she was doing?
When I broke into the prison system, we had little training. It was kind of go-for-what-you-know. It's okay if you're a 22 year old weight lifter.
She has less training than we had but they can afford to back off. We had to press on.
The gorilla by the door (GBTD) solution doesn’t appear to promote sales very effectively. It’s bothersome enough to wait in one queue, why wait in two, especially when the first one doesn’t serve the customer, but only the merchant.
Managerially, if one is going to pay a second salary, why not pay for a second cashier and reduce the queue and waiting time for all involved, along with increasing sales capacity? Doesn’t make basic corporate sense at higher levels exercising wherewithal over the entire corporate profit structure. Unless there is something else in the operational flow being anticipated and prepared to develop.
This entire operational mechanism only seems to service corporations whose remote stores have no vested interest in profitability. Puppets on a string so to speak.
IMHO, we should encourage competition to nip it in the bud. It only promotes oligopolies and monopoly and discourages the efficiencies of a free market and competition as an amazingly efficient check on human greed.
Well, today it is on the front page of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
What’s wrong with the store working within the confines of the law, or putting the lawyers to work looking for loopholes in the law, to practice effective loss prevention?”
because thats how freedoms and rights are lost in this country. idiots like this guy make a big deal over nothing and retailers lobby congress to pass a law saying they may search anyone on their premises. Before you know it we are forced to give up our constitutional right against random search and seizure if we want to shop in private stores, and all because some slimy worm decides that he wants to be a dick and ruin it for everyone. F this guy. He's a selfish @sswipe. see my post # 411.
I don’t like the receipt-checking either. I’ve told the door guy that if he wants to know what’s in my bag, he should stand by the cashier and watch what she puts in it.
If a sign like that exists in Best Buy, one of the prime offenders, it must be somewhere the customers never go.
You think those initiating the complaint want to steal?
In this case, not standing up for your rights might not only be more convenient but also the right thing to do. There are no constitutional protections that prohibit congress from giving merchants the right to search their customers while on their premises.
If retailers feel that shoplifting or lawsuits brought by guys like the author of this article become too much of a problem, they are not above lobbying congress for such laws to be passed.
I guess I am too stupid to see your point or to see the difference between having a right that you do not exercise and having Congress passing a law that does away with that right.
On the other hand our rights are protected by the Constitution and our rights are protected from infringement by the Federal Government not corporations.
On another hand I don’t think a law is necessary. Circuit City could make the case that they have an implied contract with their customers giving them the right to search all bags or packages. Posting a sign at the entrance to the store stating that management reserves the right to search all packages would give weight to such an argument.
I plan on spending my retirement on a farm reading books and fishing, with the occasional deer hunt. Getting revenge on the fuzz doesn't seem to me fulfilling. But that is about 100 years away at the rate I am going.
Because nice people are reasonable and go along to get along. If somebody makes an issue of something, people think he's an ass. Just responding to your question, not saying I support this guy. He seems like a dweeb.
It is their store and they can damn well check your bag and receipt on the way out of their store.
I take it you found out that Microsoft is behind the complaint, and your masters told you to shut up on the issue. Can’t call Microsoft a pirate now, can you?
It is my bag and my property and I can damn well walk out the store without them looking in it. If they want to know what’s in my bag, they can stand at the cashiers table and observe the items being put in there.
You’re the hypocrite of course, flogging Microsoft like usual over in that thread too LOL. Just further proof you’ll even occassionaly support Microsoft if they’re trying to get something for nothing, whereas I won’t, just the difference between liberals like you and conservatives like me. BIG difference LOL.
There can't be any hypocrisy in my point of view. I've already said I don't have blind loyalty to companies, unlike you. I've already said I'll criticize a company when it does wrong and praise it when it does good. My honest policy allows me to do both without hypocrisy.
Want an example of hypocrisy? How about someone who attacks even personal, fair use of copyrighted material in the name of protecting copyright, but then defends those who commit massive for-profit copyright infringement. Now that's hypocrisy!
As far as I can tell, it goes like this: The UCC dictates the framework and implied contract of a sale. In it, the sale is complete when payment is made and goods are handed over. This can be changed by a mutually agreed contract stating otherwise, and AFAIK, that doesn't exist at CC -- at least not a mutually agreed one since I've never been presented with such a contract there.
Now I check out and head to the door. At this point they are demanding to search my personal property.
Well I won't pretend that it would not be personally fulfilling, but you're missing the point... law officers who believe the law does not apply to them have no place in our society. Law officers who believe they have the "flexibility" to use selective enforcement or to "enforce" what they believe the law should be also have no place in our society.
State Troopers who cannot obey the speed limit have no place in our society.
City Policemen who turn their lights on just to go through a red light and turn into the donut shop (I've personally witnessed this) have no place in our society.
City Policemen who attempt to enforce state laws which are not a violation of city code are simply impersonating a state law enforcement officer and are themselves in violation of the law, also having no place in our society.
Now getting back to the story in this thread... the officer who charged this man with obstructing an officer in his official duties needs terminated and banned from ever serving in a law enforcement role again. This is an abuse of his authority and I consider it a public service if there is anything I can do to help clean up our LEO services where this type of arrogance exists.
Personally fullfulling? perhaps
"revenge on the fuzz"? there's nothing to get revenge for and this is not applicable. I just have basic respect for a nation of laws and that creates a problem with assumed and fake authority where no such authority exists.
A nation of laws does not have law enforcement officers who believe themselves above the law or believe they have authority to charge a citizen with a fictitious crime just because he caused a bit of a scene.
To ignore such behavior and allow it to continue is not only dangerous for our society, but it's selfish and self centered.
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