Posted on 09/03/2007 3:19:20 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
Today was an eventful day. I drove to Cleveland, reunited with my father’s side of the family and got arrested. More on that arrested part to come.
For the labor day weekend my father decided to host a small family reunion. My sister flew in from California and I drove in from Pittsburgh to visit my father, his wife and my little brother and sister. Shortly after arriving we packed the whole family into my father’s Buick and headed off to the grocery store to buy some ingredients to make monkeybread. (It’s my little sister’s birthday today and that was her cute/bizare birthday request.)
Next to the grocery store was a Circuit City. (The Brooklyn, Ohio Circuit City to be exact.) Having forgotten that it was my sister’s birthday I decided to run in and buy her a last minute gift. I settled on Disney’s “Cars” game for the Nintendo Wii. I also needed to purchase a Power Squid surge protector which I paid for separately with my business credit card. As I headed towards the exit doors I passed a gentleman whose name I would later learn is Santura. As I began to walk towards the doors Santura said, “Sir, I need to examine your receipt.” I responded by continuing to walk past him while saying, “No thank you.”
As I walked through the double doors I heard Santura yelling for his manager behind me. My father and the family had the Buick pulled up waiting for me outside the doors to Circuit City. I opened the door and got into the back seat while Santura and his manager, whose name I have since learned is Joe Atha, came running up to the vehicle.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsite.michaelrighi.com ...
I’ve been slightly surprised a couple of times, but never have I been outraged. This is a bunch of hooey.
Everybody must be a thief,,right..??
Some people just want to be outraged.
I agree with you, and I question if the story is true.
Interesting read; I suggest reading the whole article. Also, I reposted, from the article, the Ohio law, which states that citizens do not have to produce anything to law enforcement more than their name, address, etc. This guy was arrested and booked for not producing his driver’s license....but was not driving a vehicle.
I have no problem letting the store check my receipts. I’m on their property, it’s part of their antitheft measures, like cameras in the store. I grant it’s irritating, but if it brings the prices down, I’m fine with it.
2+2 does not = 4 here. The guy is a jerk there is no other way to put it. What is so hard about showing a receipt let alone looking in your bag?
Might I suggest he read all store rules regarding packages the next time he enters.
I agree with you. Nothing but a bunch of whiners on this thread. Maybe if they owned their own businesses, they'd think a little differently.
I would have invited Santura to go ask the checker for confirmation. Otherwise he can screw off.
ACLU fundraiser?
If this story was real, the guy was delusional. A driver’s license is an official form of identification. Since he did not say he didnt have one, it implies he did. The cop would have asked him for another valid ID. Cops have a right to check a suspicious person’s ID.
He was just exiting a retail store...someone else’s property. Shoplifting goes on at the store. If there is reasonable cause someone can be asked to provide receipts for what is in the bag(s). He was stopped outside the store on suspicion. If he was in the store, he has plausible deniabilty.
He should immediately cry himself a river, go to the bridge, and get over it already.
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...against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated
I guess this story begs for the answer if it was an unreasonable search to ask for a receipt?
IMHO, the answer is no, but I've been wrong before.
The aspect I am interested in is being arrested for failure to show a driver’s license even if you weren’t driving, as it’s too “Papers, please” for me. That plus the abuse of the police officer in falsely arresting him for not showing a license, then making up other charges when he found out he couldn’t do that.
As far as Circuit City is concerned, don’t shop there if you don’t like getting your bag searched. He was an ass for going there with his aversion to bag searches and to the Circuit City employees, but I believe the law also protects asses from unlawful restraint (Ohio Statute 2905.03) and a demand to show ID (2921.29 (C)).
Why does it seem the asses are the ones who produce the cases that protect our freedoms? Parody and satire are firmly protected speech because of Larry Flynt of all people.
LOL, this moron was looking for trouble. On Labor Day weekend!
I’m sure this idiot’s sister and family are delighted that their self-absorbed, righteously indignant bunghole of a relative went and screwed up the weekend for everybody else.
How utterly selfish and rude....
When you enter a store, you are entering private property; you are a guest in the store. You behave yourself and play by the rules on someone else's property. If the rules state that you will show your receipt, then it is boorish not to do so. There is no civil liberties issue here at all.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Not according to Ohio law. They may ask your name and address...not demand a driver's license. You can read the article in its entirety to find that information, or see my post #18.
I have no liking for the ACLU whatsoever. But I dislike arrests because some, who is not driving a car, after calling the police himself, is arrested for not producing a driver’s license, especially when he was not driving a vehicle.
On a practical level, nothing. You give consent when you walk in. Don't like it? Don't walk in.
Don’t shop in places with a policy of checking receipts.
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