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Chavez vows revenge for Falklands war
The Sunday Times Online (UK) ^ | September 2, 2007 | Martin Arostegui

Posted on 09/02/2007 1:51:41 PM PDT by Jeff Head

In a new outburst of antiwestern sabre-rattling, President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela has threatened Britain with “revenge” for the Falklands war of 1982. The belligerent Latin American leftist warned last week that his recent build-up of sophisticated Russian and Iranian weapons would be used to destroy the British fleet if it attempted to return to the South Atlantic.

Speaking on his weekly television show Alo Presidente (Hello, Mr President), Chavez denounced what he described as Britain’s “illegal occupation” of the Falklands and repeated his call for a regional military alliance against Britain and the United States.

“If we had been united in the last war, we could have stopped the old empire,” Chavez said, as he gesticulated to maps showing how Venezuelan aircraft and submarines would intercept British warships. “Today we could sink the British fleet.”

Chavez has often expressed support for Argentina’s claim to the Falklands, but his latest broadside was notable for both its antiBritish vitriol and its unprecedented threats. He declared that British history was “stained with the blood of South America’s indigenous people” and demanded revenge for the “cowardly” sinking of the General Belgrano, the Argentine cruiser.

Western diplomats have long grown used to harangues from Chavez, who announced this weekend that he would negotiate with guerrillas holding dozens of hostages in Colombia, including three US contractors and Ingrid Betancourt, a French-Colombian abducted as she campaigned for president in 2002. But US and British officials have recently become more concerned by his willingness to lavish billions of dollars from Venezuela’s soaring oil income on military capabilities.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: argentina; atlanticcrisis; brokenelavator; chavez; clown; delusions; falklands; fatheadclown; geopolitics; hugochavez; navyforum; royalnavy; usnavy; venezuela; worldwariii
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This guy, with all his new hardware, is going to be someone we ultimatley have to confront and put down.

His proposal here is eerily similar to the COSAS aliance that establishes itself in South America in my novel:


Dragon's Fury: World War against America and the West

1 posted on 09/02/2007 1:51:43 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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He can try if he wants. We’ll take both of them at once.

I double dare him.


2 posted on 09/02/2007 1:53:45 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: Jeff Head
“This guy, with all his new hardware, is going to be someone we ultimatley have to confront and put down.”

That would occupy Saturday, but what would we do for the rest of the weekend?

3 posted on 09/02/2007 1:54:16 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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“Today we could sink the British fleet.”

Maybe not with US air support.
4 posted on 09/02/2007 1:54:28 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: joanie-f; Noumenon; Dukie; Grampa Dave; B4Ranch; Squantos; Lurker; soundbits; Eaker; ...

FYI.


5 posted on 09/02/2007 1:56:54 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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America is looking weak for not dealing with this guy, when he seized the our oil company assets there. In front of the world a bully just took something valuable of ours, and we tried to act cool and not notice, but seemed to be shaking inside. It looks to the world we are afraid, or maybe our military too extended so we can’t act.

Because of that others in the world will be more likely to act, thinking we either can’t or won’t step up.


6 posted on 09/02/2007 1:57:20 PM PDT by ran20
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We would need to provide physical, military support. The new Russian SU-30s have the range to interdict the British fleet and could overcome and overwhelm the Harriers on their current carriers.

In a few years when they have the new carriers and the JSFs, that would be a different matter.

I personally believe it is time for a joint UK and US carrier exercise in the carribean to shut this idiot up. One or two of their Invinsible class, and one Nimitz class and their escorts would be all that was needed.

7 posted on 09/02/2007 1:59:56 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Agreed. It is time we shut this idiot up. Send in a couple of Brit carriers and their excrots escorted by a single Nimitz and her escorts and cruise right off his coast.


8 posted on 09/02/2007 2:01:05 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Hugo Chavez is talking like a madman. This is what what happens when dictators fall victim to that oldest malady known to their lot - megalomania. He certainly thinks he's surrounded by enemies.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 09/02/2007 2:01:15 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Oh Man,, Fidel is dead! This lil jerk is begging for it.


10 posted on 09/02/2007 2:03:55 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE)
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Is this in the same paper that is telling us to get over 9/11?


11 posted on 09/02/2007 2:07:35 PM PDT by EBH
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To: NormsRevenge

...and, IMHO, we and the Brits should give it to him. And we should put him down now, as opposed to when other, stronger enemies use him, along with the likes of Iran to bleed and distract us on their terms.


12 posted on 09/02/2007 2:07:41 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Nope, this is in the UK, the other was right here at home.


13 posted on 09/02/2007 2:08:16 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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What is the status of the Royal Navy now compared to 1982?

Could the Brits even begin to attempt the same operation today?


14 posted on 09/02/2007 2:08:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: NormsRevenge

One discretely placed JDAM right through his roof.

That should do it.


15 posted on 09/02/2007 2:08:52 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: ran20
America is looking weak for not dealing with this guy.....

I have a feeling the rest of the world sees this guy for the twit he is. Pipsqueaks like this should be ignored.

16 posted on 09/02/2007 2:10:18 PM PDT by rmccullo
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One discretely placed JDAM right through his roof. That should do it.

Exactly...the Quadaffi solution.

17 posted on 09/02/2007 2:11:55 PM PDT by rmccullo
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To: Travis McGee
The UK could do the same. They still have two of their carriers operational, and they have new Amphibious assault ships that are stronger than what they had back then, and decent escorts.

But, if the Venezuelans jumped in with their new high-performance Russian jets and missiles, they would need our help. Those aircraft have the range, the carrying capacity, and the performance to overwhelm the harriers and hurt the Brit task force badly as they pass on their way south.

One Nimitz and its escorts would eliminate all of that though and, if it came to that, IMHO, we should provide it for our allies and help forcefully put down this renegade.

18 posted on 09/02/2007 2:12:01 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Pipsqueaks like this should be ignored.

Not when he is building up the military he is, and with the oil revenue he has.

We should simply call his bluff forcefully and make him look the fool. Send a joint Brit and US Navy carrier task force to the Carribean

If he does nothing, he looks like the loudmouthed, braggard and bafoon he is. If he comes out to play, that force destroys all of his new toys and his capability to house, maintain, produce, and buy more.

19 posted on 09/02/2007 2:15:12 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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(Chavez) declared that British history was “stained with the blood of South America’s indigenous people”

And history has a way of repeating.

20 posted on 09/02/2007 2:15:13 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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