Guess What Folks - Secession Wasn't Treason

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Guess What Folks--Secesson Wasn't Treason by Al Benson Jr.

More and more of late I have been reading articles dealing with certain black racist groups that claim to have the best interests of average black folks at heart (they really don't). It seems these organizations can't take time to address the problems of black crime in the black community or of single-parent families in the black community in any meaningful way. It's much more lucrative for them (and it gets more press coverage) if they spend their time and resources attacking Confederate symbols. Ive come to the conclusion that they really don't give a rip for the welfare of black families. They only use that as a facade to mask their real agenda--the destruction of Southern, Christian culture.

Whenever they deal with questions pertaining to history they inevitably come down on that same old lame horse that the South was evil because they seceded from the Union--and hey--everybody knows that secession was treason anyway. Sorry folks, but that old line is nothing more than a gigantic pile of cow chips that smells real ripe in the hot August sun! And I suspect that many of them know that--they just don't want you to know it--all the better to manipulate you my dear!

It is interesting that those people never mention the fact that the New England states threatened secession three times--that's right three times--before 1860. In 1814 delegates from those New England states actually met in Hartford, Connecticut to consider seceding from the Union. Look up the Hartford Convention of 1814 on the Internet if you want a little background. Hardly anyone ever mentions the threatened secession of the New England states. Most "history" books I've seen never mention it. Secession is never discussed until 1860 when it suddenly became "treasonous" for the Southern states to do it. What about the treasonous intent of the New England states earlier? Well, you see, it's only treasonous if the South does it.

Columnist Joe Sobran, whom I enjoy, once wrote an article in which he stated that "...Jefferson was an explicit secessionist. For openers he wrote a famous secessionist document known to posterity as the Declaration of Independence." If these black racist groups are right, that must mean that Jefferson was guilty of treason, as were Washington and all these others that aided them in our secession from Great Britain. Maybe the black racists all wish they were still citizens of Great Britain. If that's the case, then as far as I know, the airlines are still booking trips to London, so nothing is stopping them.

After the War of Northern Aggression against the South was over (at least the shooting part) the abolitionist radicals in Washington decided they would try Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederate States as a co-conspirator in the Lincoln assassination (which would have been just great for Edwin M. Stanton) and as a traitor for leading the secessionist government in Richmond, though secession had hardly been original with Mr. Davis. However, trying Davis for treason as a secessionist was one trick the abolitionist radicals couldn't quite pull off.

Burke Davis, (no relation to Jeff Davis that I know of) in his book The Long Surrender on page 204, noted a quote by Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase, telling Edwin Stanton that "If you bring these leaders to trial, it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution, secession is not rebellion...His (Jeff Davis') capture was a mistake. His trial will be a greater one. We cannot convict him of treason." Burke Davis then continued on page 214, noting that a congressiona committee proposed a special court for Davis' trial, headed by Judge Franz Lieber. Davis wrote: "After studying more than 270,000 Confederate documents, seeking evidence against Davis, the court discouraged the War Department: 'Davis will be found not guilty,' Lieber reported 'and we shall stand there completely beaten'." What the radical Yankees and their lawyers were admitting among themselves (but quite obviously not for the historical record) was that they and Lincoln had just fought a war of aggression agains the Southern states and their people, a war that had taken or maimed the lives of over 600,000 Americans, both North and South, and they had not one shread of constitutional justification for having done so, nor had they any constitutional right to have impeded the Southern states when they chose to withdraw from a Union for which they were paying 83% of all the expenses, while getting precious little back for it, save insults from the North.

Most of us detest big government or collectivism. Yet, since the advent of the Lincoln administration we have been getting ever increasing doses of it. Lincoln was, in one sense, the "great emancipator" in that he freed the federal government from any chains the constitution had previously bound it with, so it could now roam about unfettered "seeking to devous whoseover it could." And where the Founders sought to give us "free and independent states" is anyone naive enough anymore as to think the states are still free and independent? Those who honestly still think that are prime candidates for belief in the Easter Bunny, for he is every bit as real as is the "freedom" our states experience at this point in history. Our federal government today is even worse than what our forefathers went to war against Britain to prevent. And because we have been mostly educated in their government brain laundries (public schools) most still harbor the illusion that they are "free." Well, as they say, "the brainwashed never wonder." ___________________

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[stand watie]

sadly for YOU, far too many WELL-known/WELL-respected FReepers KNOW that i was exactly WHERE & WHAT i said i was on 9-11-01 AND how long i was "stuck" in Atlanta.

it's EASILY DISPROVED LIES (like your deceit in this case) that make you a LAUGHINGSTOCK to the INTELLIGENT folks here on the forum.

free dixie,sw

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

it's EASILY DISPROVED LIES (like your deceit in this case...

What lie? All I did was link to your posts on 9/11. People can draw their own conclusions in the same way they can draw their own conclusions about your veracity when you claim that the Spanish celebrated Thanksgiving outside El Paso "over a century" before the Pilgrims landed in 1620,

[x]

That's the way you can tell a real liar from a mere fibber. They don't know when to quit and keep piling it on.

So you get:

1) "i was ON a plane that awful morning"

2) "one of our number" was seen being "led away in bracelets" by the ATL airport police!!!"

and

3) "i'm glad you survived;a friend of mine on FR wasn't so lucky"

Somebody might be able to get away with one or even two of these, but all three may be too much.

Do they want to be caught? Do they like taking the risk? Or is it a reflex, an itch that just has to be scratched or a habit one forms and just can't break?

Can they tell the difference between what's true and their own inventions? Or do they come to believe whatever's convenient for them at the time?

[stand watie]

bubba", WHY do you believe that ANYONE on FR believes ANYTHING you post inasmuch as you ADMIT to:

1. having committed a CRIMINAL FRAUD to try (UNSUCCESSFULLY, i might add) to win an argument on the forum,

2. having been PERMANENTLY BANNED from FR forever "for cause" and having returned with a new alias.

further, you've told so many KNOWING lies on so many different subjects/occasions that you cannot keep track of WHICH lie you told WHEN????

as you were NOT on FR in 2001, you also may NOT know that at least ONE (& i believe TWO) threads around that time were DELETED because certain persons of the PREJUDICED persuasion made anti-USA comments on that thread. if i remember correctly it was "whiskey papa", who struck "the blow that killed father" & got the whole thread deleted, when he (i think) suggested that 9/11 was the fault of the USA. ("the DAMNyankee coven" has ALWAYS been stupid/hate-FILLED/ignorant/bigoted & generally a "home for CREEPS".)

therefore i see TWO (2) possibilities:

1. that you are ignorant of the TRUTH and/or

2. that you KNOW the truth & CHOSE to LIE about it.

in either case, you are a DUMB-bunny, who is the BUTT of jokes about STUPID, hate-FILLED "useful idiots" on the forum.

PITY that you don't know that.

laughing AT you, as MOST here do.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

the frank TRUTH is that you are too ignorant/prejudiced to HAVE an intelligent opinion, much less be taken seriously by anyone on these threads.

that is , i must tell you, the plain FACT.

as i told "bubba, the LIAR", too many well-known FReepers remember that i told the EXACT TRUTH about my being "stuck in Atlanta". thus, you look DUMBER than usual.

laughing AT you.

free dixie,sw

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

as you were NOT on FR in 2001, you also may NOT know that at least ONE (& i believe TWO) threads around that time were DELETED because certain persons of the PREJUDICED persuasion made anti-USA comments on that thread

Ah, of course. Another of those unverifiable claims. How convenient for you that the thing that would prove what you say is always unobtainable for some reason.

But speaking of lies, how do you plan to spin the fact that you said, "fwiw, the FIRST THANKSGIVING was celebrated in TEXAS, just a few miles south of El Paso, about 100+ years BEFORE the pilgrim's arrival." and "oddly enough the FIRST THANKSGIVING in TX was held for PRECISELY the same reason as the one in "pilgrim-land" (over a CENTURY later!)" when the Pilgrims landed in 1620 and Cortez landed in 1519? Are you ever going to address that fact, or are you just going to keep blustering and hope it goes away?

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

as i told "bubba, the LIAR", too many well-known FReepers remember that i told the EXACT TRUTH about my being "stuck in Atlanta".

Yeah, and you also said you had a guy who was going to come on FR and tell us all about the Yankees burning down the Alexandria synagogue that apparently hadn't been built yet.

[stand watie]

just out of curiosity, don't you get tired of being thought to be a LIAR and/or a FOOL???

free dixie,sw

[r9etb]

laughing AT you, as MOST here do.

Well, that's the pot calling the kettle black.....

I don't think that even the sainted IowaHawk could create a parody FReeper as preposterous as you....

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

So that would be “keep blustering and hope it goes away” then. I didn’t think it would be any other way.

[stand watie]

well, i must tell you that you are BOTH "easily entertained" and DECEIVED.

PITY that you don't know that simple TRUTH.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

NOPE. it's called: posting the TRUTH about you & the other HATE-filled, LYING bigots of "the DAMNyankee coven of fools,REVISIONIST lunatics, LEFTISTS, "useful idiots", nitwits & RACISTS".

PITY that you are so SELF-deluded that you don't KNOW what your reputation is on FR.

laughing AT you, BIGOT/SERIAL LIAR!!!

to ALL: PM me & i will send you a list of FReepers of the DC & SC chapters that KNOW the TRUTH, however much the CREEPS of "the coven" try to "change the subject", post sanctimonious BILGE and LIE to you.

free dixie,sw

[r9etb]

You’re killin’ me, Kos.

[stand watie]

if you do NOT enjoy reading THE TRUTH (at least,as i see it), "just scroll on by".

it's a FREE country (at least for NOW!).

free dixie,sw

[r9etb]

It is indeed a FREE country -- in which case I am FREE to take issue with your STUPID antics.

You've got to be a troll. No normal, rational person could maintain a demeanor as unhinged as you've been displaying.

If I wanted to make "The South" look really, really, bad, I'd post the sort of stuff you do -- lots of bluster and spit, utter irrationality, PLENTY of ALL CAPS (showing bizarre intonation), and a heap of gratuitous insults besides.

It's amusing, but not convincing.

And that, sir or ma'am, is THE TRUTH.

[stand watie]

"and that sir or ma'am is" IGNORANCE on YOUR part.

PITY that you don't know that the FACTS are that i'm posting the TRUTH, whether you like my (admittedly ODD) typing style or not.

the other piece of TRUTH is that those who "know NOT & know NOT that they know NOT" are VERY concerned with FORM & NOT much with substance (especially when those FACTS may DISAGREE with one's prejudiced/unfounded notions).

as for a "FREE country", it won't be any longer a FREE country,if "the hillery-BEAST" gets POTUS, as seems NOW likely. she is a FASCIST, like so many other DAMNyankees/haters/leftists/fools/DIMocRATS.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

laughing AT you.

free dixie,sw

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Not as hard as a whole bunch of people are laughing at you. And unlike your mystery correspondents (assuming they exist), they aren't afraid to come on these threads and say so.

So are you ever going to tell us more about the El Paso Thanksgiving?

[stand watie]

as i've said numerous times, the DECENT people on FR won't READ your BILGE & LIES, much less post TO you. they think you are STUPID, a RACIST & an idiot.

don't you get really tired of being thought to be a FOOL & a BIGOT???

that IS your reputation.you are RUINED on FR.

laughing AT you, BIGOT.

free dixie,sw

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Now why should I believe anything from a man who has been caught lying as many times as you?

What year was that El Paso Thanksgiving?