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Vick: 'I need to grow up'
CNN ^ | 27 Aug 07

Posted on 08/27/2007 9:30:47 AM PDT by PurpleMan

"What I did was very immature so that means I need to grow up," he said.

He said, "Through this situation I've found Jesus."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: goodkidsdontkilldogs; hepmejesushepme; iwuzjustawiddlebaby; vick
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To: Fawn
The man brutally slaughtered living breathing animals because they weren't good enough.

1. Deer-hunters slaughter living breathing animals, and isn't always clean and pretty.

2. Killing pit bulls is doing the world a favor. Breeding and owning them is the crime.

3. Animals are not human. Killing dogs is weird, and should be illegal, but it is not on the level of harming a human.

Those who equate animals with humans are just as sick as Michael Vick. And those who despise him on the same level they would a murderer should have their own heads examined.

161 posted on 08/27/2007 11:23:58 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Dante3

I didn’t say we shouldn’t speak out against it. I said we should give him the benefit of the doubt as to his claim of conversion.


162 posted on 08/27/2007 11:25:28 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: P-Marlowe

Family background.....

A child of believers is set apart by God....”as it is they are holy...”

“...found himself fighting pigs for pods. Even my Father’s servants have it better. I will return to my Father and say, “Father, I have sinned...”

Here’s hoping.


163 posted on 08/27/2007 11:26:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: stinkerpot65

It’s all about Cruelty. Look it up.


164 posted on 08/27/2007 11:26:54 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: Fawn
I knew you were full of stupid and trick questions. It's not equal. Nobody ever said it was. But, you're desperate and want to put words into peoples mouthes. Change the point and context to save thyself. Animals are to be taken 'care of' (dominion) by us.....and if you can't see how what Vick did is wrong....then something's wrong with your thinking. Do you think Jesus would of picked up the smaller goat and slammed it's head against the wall or slammed its head with a stone.....simply because it was the smaller goat? And don't tell me Yes. Jesus had compassion. It's nice to know that Bosco would though......because Boscos a human.

I didn't ask a trick question. I asked if you were equating a human child's life with that of an animal, and unless I've entirely misread your response, you affirmed that when you said in post #103

Life is life. Think about it.

Did I misread it?

Would you like to clarify your "Life is life"?

165 posted on 08/27/2007 11:27:27 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Bosco
"Life is life"

Just to back you up. "Life is life" not correct. Michael Vick is a human being, and therefore infinitely more valuable than any animal. To believe otherwise is sick.

166 posted on 08/27/2007 11:31:03 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: what's up

Some use soccer (football) as an opiate too (read Europe). That’s the only comparison I’m going to draw. My asbestos suit is at the cleaners.


167 posted on 08/27/2007 11:32:30 AM PDT by AntiKev ("No damage. The world's still turning isn't it?" - Stereo Goes Stellar - Blow Me A Holloway)
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To: Bosco
That was my quick response to your previous post. I wanted it short and sweet.. ....I think you know exactly why I wrote it.
But to elaborate .....to be 'cruel' to any life is unacceptable. You think it's ok huh?
168 posted on 08/27/2007 11:32:45 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: Fawn

Sheesh.

It used to be how soon can any discussion gety around to Hitler. Now it’s abortion.


169 posted on 08/27/2007 11:33:59 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: Perdogg

I agree.


170 posted on 08/27/2007 11:36:22 AM PDT by freekitty (May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.)
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To: dmz
I say 50 to 1. Fifty liars for every sincere case. JMO.

much to generous on your part.
I'd say 100-1.

Free Tookey...now!!!

171 posted on 08/27/2007 11:36:39 AM PDT by evad
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To: PurpleMan
"Through this situation I've found Jesus."

F Lee "fill in blank" told him to say that.

172 posted on 08/27/2007 11:37:33 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: Fawn

People do cruel things all the time, but hating Vick in particular is all about is equating animals with humans, and apparently from some of the comments, a lot of jealousy over Michale Vick’s income.

Michael Vick is a sinner, and he will pay a heavier price for his sins than most of us do, but he and his soul are still far more important than all the dogs in the world.


173 posted on 08/27/2007 11:39:34 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: PurpleMan

t used to be how soon can any discussion gety around to Hitler. Now it’s abortion.

crap, i was just going to mention Hitler, darn


174 posted on 08/27/2007 11:39:46 AM PDT by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: stinkerpot65
1. Deer-hunters slaughter living breathing animals, and isn't always clean and pretty.

I was unaware that hunters went out, captured multiple deer, mistreated them, and then trained them to kill other deer in an enclosed space. Sorry, your point is not made, and the comparison is absurd on its face

2. Killing pit bulls is doing the world a favor. Breeding and owning them is the crime.

Non sequitor in this context. Nice appeal to feeeeeelings though.

3. Animals are not human. Killing dogs is weird, and should be illegal, but it is not on the level of harming a human.

Well, aren't you the humanitarian with a firm grasp on the difference between species. Because it's not as bad as harming a human, we should simply turn off our moral compass and not care? Fat chance. And if reading is not your thing, put killing dogs in one hand and righteous indignation in the other. Do they really look the same to you?

Those who equate animals with humans are just as sick as Michael Vick.

No one on this thread has equated dogs and humans. People who minimize Vick's actions on the basis of the Biblically stated inequality between dogs and humans are the ones who need to read the good book for comprehension.

And those who despise him on the same level they would a murderer should have their own heads examined.

Really? Come to my house and kill my dog. They'll be examining your head, and wondering how to extract the axe.

175 posted on 08/27/2007 11:41:43 AM PDT by dmz
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To: stinkerpot65
Michael Vick is a human being, and therefore infinitely more valuable than any animal.

What about Hitler?

176 posted on 08/27/2007 11:46:45 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Fawn
That was my quick response to your previous post. I wanted it short and sweet.. ....I think you know exactly why I wrote it.

You may have intended it that way, but that is why I added "Think about it" to my original response.

But to elaborate .....to be 'cruel' to any life is unacceptable. You think it's ok huh?

Now, you're doing the very thing you accused me of - putting words into my mouth. What I did was to challenge your idea of equating a similarly cruel act to an animal and a human child. So, no, it's not acceptable to be cruel.

To animals or to humans.

But to equate the two types of life if you're a Christian puts you in conflict with Scriptures. That's what I'm getting at.

God created mankind (both sexes, folks) in His image. We were also designed to have a relationship with God. Not so with animals. It's a slippery slope when God is taken out of the picture and you're left with naturalism. PETA happens to be further down the slope than almost anyone, but logically, that's where it will end up.

Humans are so worthwhile to God, that Jesus died for their sins, to make restoration of that relationship possible.

177 posted on 08/27/2007 11:46:57 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: af_vet_rr

Luckily, it is very easy to find Jesus in federal prison. (Of course, pronunciation is everything.)


178 posted on 08/27/2007 11:49:05 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: dmz

“No one on this thread has equated dogs and humans”

i agree. why all this abortion/humans come first stuff? this is a discussion about animal abuse. why do they bring up these subjects. take the abortion, humans are special talk to the appropriate threads.


179 posted on 08/27/2007 11:49:26 AM PDT by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: dmz

If you care more about your pet than you do Michael Vick, for all his flaws, then, yes, that is sick.


180 posted on 08/27/2007 11:49:59 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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