Those would be "Liberals", not libertarians. Jefferson/Madison oriented libertarians understand the requisite responsibility involved with liberty.
We just don't want to have to wear diapers when the guy down the street craps his pants.
Modern liberals, who are really leftists, wants to run your life, universal heath care, education, welfare state, etc.
The libertarians I’m talking about don’t want to run other people’s lives, they don’t want a welfare state, their motivation for libertarianism stems from wants to do bad things without consequence. Hence they are pro-choice, their number one issue is legalizing drugs, etc.
I happen to agree philosophically with the libertarians that drugs probably should not be banned by govt. But I rarely bringing it up in discussions because it ranks pretty low on my list of what’s the major problems in American society.
But some libertarians whats to bring up the drug issue the very first thing, all the time, which tells me a lot about them that this is what they consider the most pressing issue. And pardon the generalization, it is usually because they want to use drugs.
LOL.