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To: MrB

Modern liberals, who are really leftists, wants to run your life, universal heath care, education, welfare state, etc.
The libertarians I’m talking about don’t want to run other people’s lives, they don’t want a welfare state, their motivation for libertarianism stems from wants to do bad things without consequence. Hence they are pro-choice, their number one issue is legalizing drugs, etc.

I happen to agree philosophically with the libertarians that drugs probably should not be banned by govt. But I rarely bringing it up in discussions because it ranks pretty low on my list of what’s the major problems in American society.

But some libertarians whats to bring up the drug issue the very first thing, all the time, which tells me a lot about them that this is what they consider the most pressing issue. And pardon the generalization, it is usually because they want to use drugs.


94 posted on 08/21/2007 1:09:25 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Truthsearcher

I consider myself a little-l libertarian, with Jefferson and Madison as my model statesmen.

I am, however, staunchly pro-life, as I see a human, no matter what stage he is in or location, as deserving to have his rights to life, liberty, and property protected.


99 posted on 08/21/2007 1:12:05 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Truthsearcher

If Libertarians are concerned that Republicans want to butt into areas that should be private, they should just wait until the Democrats nationalize health-care. Once the government is responsible for all medical expenses, they will start trying to control unhealthy behaviors in order to minimize those expenses.

Think about the seat belt argument. Seat belts should be required, so the argument goes, because an unbelted occupant is more likely to be injured or killed, which drives up the cost of the universally required insurance.

Apply that same argument to universal health care, and you have the justification for eliminating smoking, drinking, eating unhealthy foods, sloth, sexual promiscuity, and just about any other behavior you could name.

The disconnect between limited government and limited interference has been disrupted. However, the link between expansive government and government intrusion into the private sphere is as strong as it has always been.


104 posted on 08/21/2007 1:15:45 PM PDT by gridlock (You’ll never grow old with Hillary-Care!)
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