Why the GOP should welcome gays into the party

northjersey.com ^ | STEVE LONEGAN

[Candor7]

That would be ‘surrending’ to them.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Nah! The RINOs are gonna stick each other to death. They are wannabes. There are only two good candidates in the Republican field. The rest are just whoopin' it up. Soon the whoopin' be over. Then the real battle begins. Won't be any RINOs left in the Valley of the Gun.( Willy Nelson Reference: 7 Spanish Angels took a Another Angel Home)

I love that song been humming it all day out in the corn fields.

Lyrics: Yup:

Willie Nelson Song: Seven Spanish Angels

He looked down into her brown eyes,

Said, " Say a prayer for me."

She threw her arms around him,

Whispered, "God will keep us free."

They could hear the riders comin,

He said, "This is my last fight.

If they take me back to Texas,

They won't take me back alive."

Chorus

There were seven Spanish Angels,

At the alter of the Sun.

They were prayin' for the lovers,

In the valley of the gun.

When the battle stopped,

And the smoke cleared.

There was thunder from the throne.

And seven Spanish angels,

Took another angel home.

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She reached down and picked the gun up,

That lay smokin in his hand.

She said, "Father please forgive me,

I can't make it without my man."

And she knew the gun was empty,

And she knew she couldn't win.

Her final prayer was answered,

When the rifles fired again.

Chorus

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I once was in Helotes Texas for the San Antonio Highland Games, and saw the road house where Willy got his start. I often entertain myself by thinking that the song is about Bill and Hillery Clinton, and it do make me laugh.Try it and you'll see what I mean. I like the Ray Charles/Willy Nelson version.

Ain't gonna be no RINOs left in the Vally of the Gun.

None of THEM can handle this kind of show down, pard.

[Old_Mil]

These are the principles of libertarianism, not of conservatism. Conservatism seeks to conserve the faith and governance of the founders of the nation.<< well, they were certainly part of Ronald Reagan’s brand of conservatism.

They are a part of conservatism, but not its guiding principles. A means to the latter end. Certainly not an excuse to justify sodomy. Gays should get out of the party.

[puroresu]

And Ronald Reagan opposed “gay rights” legislation.

[mimaw]

The problem is that people like Andrew Sullivan let his desire for gay marriage approval and disdain of those that disagree cloud his judgment on just about every other issue important to conservatives. I personally don't give a damn who he sleeps with and use to enjoy reading him but when he started thinking with his penis instead of his brain I quit.

[gondramB]

>>And Ronald Reagan opposed “gay rights” legislation.<<

As I recall, he opposed special rights for anyone, a position I share.

[Sovietski05]

nice try...sounds like a wolf in sheeps clothing.

I get goosebumps everytime I see something try to mix values with a modern “compromise” to its core.

I pray conservative thought never embraces the homosexual lifestyle or views.

[BritExPatInFla]

“Ann is absolutely right. I think most gays are more conservative than the MSM (wrong, yet again) would have us believe. At this point, I don’t think we should be trying to turn anyone away.”

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The only problem with that argument is that there is a portion of the GOP that doesn’t want those who are homosexual to remain that way, and feel that they need to be ‘saved’, regardless of said homosexual person’s thoughts on marriage or activism. If we could shut the Homosexual ‘activists’ up and shut up the ‘Moral Majority’, the GOP would be seen to be a lot more inclusive, and gays would be seen as less ‘radical’.

[dooltotheend]

Frankly, it’s beyond me why I need to know a person by their sexual persuasion. I don’t introduce myself as heterosexual Chuck Dooley. I’m simply Chuck Dooley. Tell me where I’m going wrong?

[ikka]

The Republican Party claims to be a "Big Tent," and rightfully so, as the core conservative principles of the party revolve around individual liberty and a limited government that serves to protect that liberty.

Liberty does not equal "Libertinism".

There must be SOME kind of reason that the following faiths discourage homosexuality: Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism (mostly), Islam, Buddhism (mostly).

[Calpernia]

He won both times he was endorsed by LCR.

[Calpernia]

>>>>Reminds me of the Greek communist Ariana Huffington who, with her homosexual husband, penetrated the upper levels of GOP.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1235065/posts?page=27#27

The Rise of Adolf Hitler and Nazism in Germany

It is said that Communism was largely responsible for the rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party. It will be recalled that when the German Kaiser capitulated in 1918 the Communists tried to take over Germany. Anticommunist political groups immediately sprang up and through a frantic coalition they prevented the Communists from seizing power. It was this anticommunist atmosphere that Adolf Hitler began his political career.

(snip)

...[Stalin] recognized in the Nazi dictator a formidable opponent of his own breed and kind. He saw that Hitler was shrewd and ruthless. He was completely amoral. He had no compunction whatever against violence, the purging of his own people, the use of deceit in propaganda, or the sacrifice of millions of lives to achieve personal power. Materialism had produced precisely the same product in Germany that it had produced in Russia. Although called by different names, Nazism and Communism were aimed at the same identical mark and were forged in very similar ideological molds.

OPINION:

Sounds like the Log Cabin Republicans and the Victory Fund Democrats.

[BellStar]

dooltotheend, I could not have said it better!
My sexuality is only one part of my very full life.
Does it not seem to be all the "third sex" is about.
Very sad!

[Scotsman will be Free]

Exactly so. Being “socially liberal” means expanding govt, and taking money from people to fund “socially liberal” projects. That doesn’t square with “fiscally conservative”. I believe that anyone who claims to be “socially liberal” but “fiscally conservative” is a cheapskate who wants everyone else to fund his pet projects while he buys himself a boat.

[Scotsman will be Free]

Are you saying that one man being turned on by another man’s hairy butt is perversion? I’m shocked! Shocked, I tell you.

[F.J. Mitchell]

And Gomorrah too.

[puroresu]

Excellent point!

Homosexuality is unnatural. Furthermore, homosexuals themselves know that their behavior is unnatural. When homosexuality is in the closet, homosexuals go off into private and do their little unnatural deeds and mostly leave everyone else alone. But once homosexuality is uncloseted, its adherents go on an ideological rampage that is very unrepublican in nature.

You’re probably familiar with the tale of The Emperor’s New Clothes. The emperor in this fairy tale (no pun intended) was nude, but he had been told that he was wearing beautiful clothing that could only be seen by the best and the brightest. Since everyone wanted to be included in this elite category, the entire nation pretended that the emperor was clothed even though he was parading around naked. But it came crashing down one day when a child who didn’t know the rules shouted out that the emperor was in fact nude.

Just as the emperor needed constant positive reinforcement to believe the falsehood that he was fully clothed, uncloseted homosexuals need to be constantly assured that they’re normal, or they’ll realize they aren’t. So it’s not enough for homosexuals to be allowed to go off into private and do their thing. They have to be ratified in their behavior 24/7, and anyone who disapproves of their conduct has to be stifled. Even one person asserting that homosexuality is unnatural is enough to bring down the whole house of cards. That’s why President Bush’s recent Surgeon General nominee had to recant writings from 1990 in which he described homosexuality as unnatural.

So in a society where homosexuality is uncloseted, homosexuals wallow in their behavior every waking moment. They aren’t an accountant, they’re a gay accountant who belongs to the gay accountants’ association, where they sit around and discuss how their homosexuality is inherently linked to their job as an accountant and leads them to engage in accountancy in a uniquely gay way.

Suppose you were a carrot farmer and decided to launch a monthly magazine dealing with carrot farming and marketing issues. You wouldn’t receive requests from celibate people demanding that they be profiled in your magazine specifically as a celibate carrot farmer. A carrot marketer who lives with someone of the opposite sex out of wedlock wouldn’t insist on being profiled as such. You wouldn’t write an article featuring carrot truck drivers who are also adulterers, with emphasis on the latter.

But you’d very likely be contacted by homosexuals who would request....even demand....that you dedicate one issue per year to homosexual carrot farmers, homosexual carrot marketers, gay carrot recipes, lesbian carrot truck drivers, etc.

Once uncloseted homosexuality is unleashed, it goes completely mad in an effort to find positive reinforcement. It equally must censor any negative opinion. That’s why the San Diego Padres will never have a leather fetish night, or a cohabitation night, but they recently had a gay night at one of their games.

Adultery, fornication, and polygamy may be sinful in the eyes of many people, but they aren’t literally against nature. Homosexuality is. And that’s why its practitioners need to parade down the street in the St. Patrick’s Day parade on a special homosexual float. They’re like the emperor trying to convince himself that he’s clothed, even though he’s stark naked.

[JohnnyZ]

Gays are welcome into the party, as fellow men and women, not as homosexuals.

We do not recognize interest groups based upon sexual behavior. That is a subject best left in the bedroom and has no place in the public forum. They are not a minority deserving of special rights.

QFT.

[Calpernia]

It was and still is very common for homosexuals to be used as spies especially by the Communist Party. They are easy to blackmail and the pathology makes them susceptible to indoctrination.

From 1947 thru 1970(ish), there was a purge of homosexuals from government positions called The Lavender Scare. This purge was related to all the documents that were being purged from Russian spies.

Investigation resulted from the atomic bomb Russia exploded.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1235065/posts?page=27#27

[DesScorp]

I refuse to openly welcome any group that wants to promote bad things as a virtue.

[massgopguy]

Why does Sexual Orientation merit a parade? Is it some sort of accomplishment?