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U.S. stocks fall sharply amid credit, Wal-Mart woes
Marketwatch ^ | Aug 14, 2007 | Kate Gibson

Posted on 08/14/2007 12:10:24 PM PDT by Post-Neolithic

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stocks fell after Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the world's largest retailer, lowered its earnings forecast and a futures broker moved to stop withdrawals, exacerbating worries about a credit squeeze. "It is a problem in the asset-backed commercial paper market that is causing the new concern now - that is the new leg to drop," said Peter Bookvar, equity strategist at Miller Tabak.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: credit; mortgage; stocks; walmart
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To: Moonman62

Exactly. More like 3-4 DAY loans.


41 posted on 08/14/2007 2:24:12 PM PDT by masadaman
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To: bad company
Wal-Mart mentioned, even blamed?

Walmart managed to Tick off a sizable portion of their customers this past year with some bad ideas. They Ticked off Moms by taking out crafts. They ticked off dad by in some places taking out guns. They ticked off Dad by reducing hardware department as well as outdoor power equipment accessories inventory even on such high volume items as weed eater string. When you go there several times wanting 150 or 350 feet of weed eatet string and all they have is a large giant roll it isn't hard to see what they are doing to you.

They Ticked off Mom and Dad by closing down Layaway which was one of the bigger things many counted on at Christmas and pushing Credit which is not a Conservative value as such. It is not a conservative value especially to encourage those who can to afford it to go in debt which is a high percentage of their customer base.

They ticked off people even more with Merchandise Roulette in may stores with Lowered Inventory. They did this in many stores by eliminating an entire shelf level store wide. The now never ending illogical moving of non seasonable items every other week to where items are hard to locate forcing customer to take longer and making customer who just wanted a box of Bandages for Junior bleeding at home angrier is yet another reason sales are down. Some people are in a hurry and Walmart has 4 lines open in a Super Store three of them waiting on Members of Management for Voids or a price check or argueing with Coupon Lady.

It isn't really a conservative thing it is Walmarts we'll do to you as we please where else can you go now attitude which has angered many folks including myself. Walmart lost over $125 of my business this month alone because of stocking and inventory not being able to locate needed item issues. Don't ask the clerks. They move the stuff so many times these days they don't know either.

42 posted on 08/14/2007 2:28:19 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Moonman62

Any chance you live in/near Prescott, AZ?


43 posted on 08/14/2007 2:31:37 PM PDT by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: cva66snipe
Corrected :It is not a conservative value especially to encourage those who can NOT afford it to go in debt which is a high percentage of their customer base. This will drive up default on credit debt as well. Yes Wally World needs some blame.
44 posted on 08/14/2007 2:33:17 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Deo et Patria
I don't need to read any of the thousands of books available devoted to the "Why" of the Great Depression to understand that Invester fears compounded by government intervention in the markets, made it a hell of a lot worse then it may have been.

Contrary to popular belief, the depression did not end with government intervention, it ended with WWII. Oh and thanks for the nick, Sparky has a nice ring, I like it.

45 posted on 08/14/2007 2:34:11 PM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: Zon

I don’t know who said it, but it is from someone in the 1920s, before the market crash. The story goes a stock broker took some person to a yacht club, and showed him all of the broker’s yachts. The person then asked the famous question: “Where are the customers’ yachts?”


46 posted on 08/14/2007 2:59:56 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Post-Neolithic
"Contrary to popular belief, the depression did not end with government intervention, it ended with WWII. "

True. Took care of the unemployment and got the factories going. Maybe the draft is coming after all. But the market is moving with the news, yesterday good, today bad. Keep tuned, news at 11.

47 posted on 08/14/2007 3:05:22 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: JeffAtlanta
Since the Dow is denominated in dollars, a more effective chart must also take into account the strength of the dollar over that time frame.

Only if you are spending your money on goods imported from countries who's currency has not also fallen.

While the dollar has fallen, and fuel costs have risen, inflation has not skyrocketed.

People's incomes continue to rise faster than inflation. Yet somehow some people keep saying that we are somehow becoming poorer. People's buying power keeps increasing, yet some keep saying we are getting poorer. I'm having a bit of trouble understanding that reasoning.

48 posted on 08/14/2007 3:18:45 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: SargeK
When can we start blaming the Democrat-controlled Congress? Can we, huh? Can we? Pleeezzzeee....

Not on this board. It's illegals, wal-mart or Bushes fault here.

49 posted on 08/14/2007 3:19:02 PM PDT by bad company (How much easier is self-sacrifice than self-realization)
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To: Post-Neolithic
Contrary to popular belief, the depression did not end with government intervention, it ended with WWII. Oh and thanks for the nick, Sparky has a nice ring, I like it.

One of the biggest reasons the depression lasted so long was neither Hoover or FDR wanted to have a budget deficit. And in FDR's case he had to pay for all the new government programs with taxes.

50 posted on 08/14/2007 4:22:31 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: rface

I will either be seen as brilliant or stupid for turning 80% of my ROTH into cash last Friday....
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Today I sold the last of my miniscule holdings, a pink sheet stock that has gone up for better than a triple in the past 90 days. It had been going up faster and faster until today and it dropped back a little. I took that as a sign to get out. If it takes a big drop as I expect it to I may buy back into it later. I got slaughtered back in 2000 and I don’t want to die again, it hurts!


51 posted on 08/14/2007 5:06:57 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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To: JeffAtlanta

The dollar is down about 40% over the last 5 years - the Dow would have to be up 66% over that time frame to stay even.

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Wouldn’t life be more pleasant if we could just ignore troublesome little things like facts?


52 posted on 08/14/2007 5:12:05 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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To: rface

You’ll only be 80% brilliant or 80% foolish.


53 posted on 08/14/2007 5:56:48 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: RipSawyer
Looks like your buy opportunity was a couple of days ago.


54 posted on 08/17/2007 7:59:59 AM PDT by VRWCmember (Fred Thompson 2008! Taking America Back for Conservatives!)
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To: VRWCmember

I definitely sold too soon but Jesse Livermore claimed that was how he made a fortune, “I always sold too soon”. I can say from experience it beats holding too long.


55 posted on 08/17/2007 1:03:32 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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