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Harry Potter Books 1, 2 & 3 |
The Occult Parallel |
Book 1, page 51: Harry is invited to attend Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry where:
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A person is INVITED to join an occult order
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| The first book is called, “Harry Potter and The Sorcerer’s Stone.” | Occultists use sorcerers’ stones to transmute substances from one to another. |
| Book 1, page 66. Harry is informed about how much work goes into becoming a wizard and about how much there is to study. The book tittles listed, while not actual books, are significant. | The content Harry has to study includes: Astrology, Herbology, Astronomy (book 1, p. 133), Channeling power, how to use magick wands and practicing rituals. The titles of the books listed closely align to actual occult book. |
| Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry: Book 1, page 90-94 to get to the school, people have to go through a portal and get on a train. |
The entire school of Wizardry and Witchcraft is a creative visualization and exists on the astral plane- not on the physical plane. You can't get to it unless you go through the portal at the train station. This is why the rooms in the school move around. See Role-Playing Games & Popular Occultism |
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry is organized:
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Parallels any occult order:
No one confronts the power of an Imperator. No one is more powerful than he. He rules the order. |
| Harry learns how to cast spells. | Occultists manipulate elemental spirits, demonic entities, servitors, etc., as well as circumstances and people through spells, acts of will, creative visualizations, and ritual spells for their own benefit. (destruction spells, death spells) |
| Book 1, p. 114: There are four houses within the Hogwarts School: Slytherin, Ravenclaw, Gryffindor and Hufflepuff. | Each one probably represents an element. Air. Earth. Water. Fire. Since Hogwarts exists on the astral plane, that takes care of the fifth element - ethers. We do not know this yet by the end of book three. |
| Book 1, 66. Harry has a spell book | Grimore -- and occultist's personal book of incantations. |
| Voldemort wants the sorcerer's stone so he can "create" a new body for himself. | There really is a sorcerer's stone -- no comment on what it does or how it's used -- just know that it IS! |
| In Harry Potter, the "will in action" is a strong theme that runs throughout the story line. | The will in action is a direct reference tot he laws of Thelma, more specifically, the first law upon which all other laws hinge: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Nothing supersedes the will. The supreme will rules." |
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Voldemort wants the sorcerer's stone so he can "create" a new body for himself. |
There really is a sorcerer's stone - no comment on what it does or how it's used -- just know that it IS! |
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In Harry Potter, the "will in action" is a strong theme that runs throughout the story line. |
The will in action is a direct reference to the laws of Thelema, more specifically, the first law upon which all other laws hinge: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Nothing supersedes the will. the supreme will rules." |
| Book 1, p. 53. Harry was told that his parents died in a car crass. Actually they were psychically murdered. | In the occult world, people "die" by "accident" or "natural causes." |
| Book 1, p.164. Hedwig- Harry's pet owl. All the students at Hogwarts get and send their messages by owl. | Actually, Hedwig and all the other owls are familiar spirits. In the occult -- familiar spirits are used to convey messages from one occultist to others. |
| Book 1, p.130-133. Harry returns to his dormitory room through a "portrait hole." The portrait asks for a password. Book 2, p. 300. The sink - another example of a portal and how to open it up. |
Portrait hole = portal - the opening between the physical plane and the astral plane through which entities move back and forth. Portals open with the correct words. |
| Book 1, p. 138 and Book 3, p. 2. Harry uses a quill pen, ink and parchment paper to document his magical spells. | Standard occult practice -- all occultists learn to document their spells in the initial stages of their training. |
| Book 1, p. The author gives a description of what is referred to as Quirrell's master. Harry could see a face on the back of Quirrell's head. Quirrell is strengthened by unicorn blood, the Elixir of Life (book 1, p. 293). He drinks blood. |
This is a description of a real psychic vampire. The face says, "See what I have become, mere shadow and vapor. I have form only when I can share another's body. But there have always been those willing to let me into their hearts and minds." (Book 1, p. 293) Psychic vampires are real. Drinking blood is strictly forbidden in the Scriptures. |
| Book 1, p. 291. "There is no good and evil, there is only power and those too weak to seek it." | Power is the greatest central them in the occult world. There is no god and no devil in the occult world. There is ONLY POWER. |
| Book 1, p. "Always use the proper name for things -- fear of a name of anything increases fear of the thing itself." | Harry is being instructed in how to purge fear. All emotion, in the occult world is purged out of a person. Fear could mean death. |
| Book 2, p. 20-21. Harry broke the decree for the restriction of underage wizardry because he had just done serious magick. He gets a reprimand. He does it again in book 3 when he attacks Aunt Marge. (p. 28-30) | AKA - he broke the rules of discretion that every occultists is well aware of. Occultist NEVER break the rules of discretion. |
| End of book 2 (p. 317, 322) A young girl gets possessed; you see a conjurative being that threatens to kill. Harry kills a certain conjured spirit (a snake) with a special sword. | These passages are an indirect reference to Kaballah, the Tree of Life, the Kundalini (snake) and the Sword of Kerubum. "SELF" is the source of power. |
| Book 2, p. 52 mentions a "Hand of Glory." Book 3, p. 208. Hit Wizards. |
These are references to items used in VERY NEGATIVE magick. |
| Book 2 explains why Voldemort is the way he was (a psychic vampire) in book one. Harry doesn't understand Voldemort until Dumbledore explains him. In trying to protect Harry from a psychic attack on his life by Voldemort, Harry's mother took the attack on herself and she died. When she took on the full brunt to the attack, she absorbed most of the energy. Harry absorbed some to the knowledge of Voldemort, but when the energy returned to Voldemort, it destroyed his body. That is why, in book 1, we see him as a psychic vampire -- he needs to have a host body. |
Rowling gives a perfect description of the difference between demons and fallen angels on the physical plane in this example of Voldemort. She writes that Voldemort once had a body, then he didn't now he does when he attaches himself to other people. This is the way demonic entities exist in the physical world. They need a physical body in which to manifest. Angels, holy or fallen, do not need physical bodies to manifest -- they can make their own bodies on the physical plane. When occultists repel a psychic attack, they absorb some of the knowledge of the individual that attacked them. In Harry's case, he absorbed the ability to speak snake (and other special capacities) from Voldemort. |
| Book 2, p. 314-322. Rowlings describes an occult war: Voldemort says he's the greatest sorcerer in the world and Harry says that Dumbldore is the greatest wizard in the world. Then a fawkes, a phoenix and a sorting hat show up to defend and fight for Harry. Voldemort gave Harry permission to use the tools Dumbledore sent him. Harry defeats Voldemort. | Occult wars are fought on the spiritual level. This story line is straight psychic metaphor. Harry found the weakness in Voldemort's existence and capitalized on it. There are references to items used in VERY NEGATIVE magic. |
| Book 3, p. 247. The Dementor's kiss. | Lupin explains that when dementors wish to destroy someone utterly, they suck the soul out of the person through their mouth. "You can exist without your soul, you know, as long as your brain and heart are still working." |
| Book 3, p. 250, 251. Hermione is reading a Rune translation. | |
| Book 3, p. 426, 427. Harry has a conversation with Dumbldore regarding saving Pettigrew's life. Dumbledore tells Harry that when one wizard "saves another wizard's life, it creates a bond between them. This is magic at its deepest and most impenetrable." | This bond and debt is called an ON in the occult world. |
| Harry does not know that he can talk in the language of snakes. You get an inkling of this in books 1, page 28. When Harry has a conversation with the boa constrictor, he thinks the snake is talking English, when, in fact, it is Harry that is talking "snake." The conversation with a snake comes up again in book 2, page 194. In a class titled "Defense Against the Dark Arts," a snake is ready to attack one of the members of his group, Justin, and Harry tells the snake to stop. The snake obeys immediately. People were astounded that Harry could speak snake. |
Those who practice the many forms of familiar magick have the ability to communicate with animals. I.e.: horse whisperers, medicine men, etc. |
| Book 3, p. 28-30. Harry attacks his aunt Marge for her disparaging comments about him and his family by placing a swelling spell on her. | This is a psychic attack. Harry's lightening bolt scar on his forehead is a symbol of his psychic strength. The lightening bolt is similar in nature to the occult "Sword of the Cherubim." |
| Book 3, p. 133. Harry's class practices on a bogart to remove whatever fear they have. A bogart is an entity which morphs into whatever anyone is afraid of. It is a shape shifter and will change itself into "whatever it thinks will frighten us most." | Bogarts, called something else in the occult world, are real. They are used in occult training as practice for conquering fear and for perfecting their craft. |
| Book 3, p. 83. Harry has a confrontation with several dementors. These creatures are similar to vampires that can suck the positive energy out of a person. They cause a person to be confronted with their own evil and what the person fears. Harry is not successful in deriving the dementors away on his own. In book 3, p. 236-237, Lupin teachers him a spell to put a barrier between him and the dementors. | In the occult, psychic vampires are similar to dementors. They feed on the emotional energy of people. Fear is a strong emotion that dementors feed on. |
So which website did you (once again) block quote this from, in your continuing lame attempt to prove something or other?
Mr. Maximus, what you’ve just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I remember seeing this one a few years years ago. A gigantic pack of lies, half truths, and “what the hell are these idiots talking about”.
Let’s start with the fact that Harry, and other children capable of it, performs magic before he knows there is such a thing as wizards. So while he is “invited” to join a school to learn to control his powers, he could not go to the school and would still have his powers. In fact this is discussed in book 7 when it is mentioned that there are wizard parent who home school their wizard children. So he is NOT an initiate, is is NOT learning witchcraft in the real world sense, and all life is about learning to conquer fear.
And that’s as far as I’m bothering to go. If you want to read my point by point argument with this very pack of lies, find the thread of me talking to Aquinasfan around 2001. It’s an old list, as you can tell by the fact that it only bothers with the first 3 books, and it’s all BS. The fact that you’re turning to antiquated packs of lies just shows you’re getting desperate.
Either this is false, or everything else in the post is pure fiction.
Watch out for those Bogarts under the kitchen sink; they could see up your skirt!
Book 1, page 90-94 to get to the school, people have to go through a portal and get on a train. Book 1, p. 131-133. The rooms shift places until the students can lock them down through visualization.
The entire school of Wizardry and Witchcraft is a creative visualization and exists on the astral plane- not on the physical plane. You can't get to it unless you go through the portal at the train station. This is why the rooms in the school move around. See Role-Playing Games & Popular Occultism
Yes you can; they did it in the second book and movie. They couldn't get through the portal; they got to it in a flying Ford Anglia which means that in the book it exists in the physical plane. Where do you get this crap?
Continually spewing nonsense doesn’t bolster your position.
Whoever came up with that chart did not read the books. They could only have gone looking for passages to support their predetermined judgement. Some of what is in the chart twists things 180 degrees from what the book presents. Some examples:
- Book 1, p. 291. “There is no good and evil, there is only power and those too weak to seek it.” This is said in defense of the evil that Harry must learn to defeat.
- Book 2, p. 52 mentions a “Hand of Glory.”
Book 3, p. 208. Hit Wizards. Again these are things that are in use by those of evil nature.
There are twisted meanings in that: Book 1, p. 114: There are four houses within the Hogwarts School: Slytherin, Ravenclaw, Gryffindor and Hufflepuff. (Very much incorrect. The houses each have a prime attribute of those that belong there. S - ambition, R - intelligence G - honor H - friendship.)
Dumbledore (a man) (#1)) Supreme Mugwump
Snape (a man) (#2)
Professor Minerva McGonagall (a woman) (#2) Deputy Headmistress (book 1, p. 51) (McGonagall is actually the one that is second to Dumbledore. Snape is someone that works for him and is trying to atone for an evil past.)
Some of the rest is grasping at straws to make a point. It has no reall connection from the book to the claimed reference.
Parallels any occult order:
Imperitor (a man) (#1)
Temple Master (a man) (#2)
Cancellareous (a woman) (#2)
So in the TV show "Two Guys, A Girl and A Pizza Place", the Pizza Place is in fact representative of Hell? And we're all Satan anchovies for devouring this unholy tripe?
That is a load of lies.
People who try to argue the evils of Harry Potter while LYING are pretty pathetic.
Just a few notes on the table that you posted earlier (#372)
Book 1, page 66. Harry is informed about how much work goes into becoming a wizard and about how much there is to study. The book tittles listed, while not actual books, are significant.
The content Harry has to study includes: Astrology, Herbology, Astronomy (book 1, p. 133), Channeling power, how to use magick wands and practicing rituals. The titles of the books listed closely align to actual occult book.
Oh my goodness! You mean that there’s a lot of studying to be done, and you need to study specific subjects to do anything in school? Who-da-thunk-it! Let’s see... If you want to be a doctor, you need to study all sorts of things, like biology, chemistry, etc... Oh, and you need a lot of different books as well. Will studying those things prepare a student to be a theologist, or an engineer? No, not really. Theology and engineering students would need to follow a different course path to prepare them for their future. It shouldn’t be surprising that it would be the same in the fictional HP world, where children learn to control their powers.
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Book 1, page 90-94 to get to the school, people have to go through a portal and get on a train.
The entire school of Wizardry and Witchcraft is a creative visualization and exists on the astral plane- not on the physical plane. You can’t get to it unless you go through the portal at the train station.
This is COMPLETELY WRONG! The portal at the train station simply hides the platform from the muggles. It just happens to hide it from the wizarding world too, as magical folk can’t see it, they just assume that it’s there, as we saw in the second book, when the portal was closed by Dobby, and Ron and Harry couldn’t get onto the platform. So, they used a bewitched car to follow the train to Hogwarts (where through an inconsistancy in the story between “Chamber of Secrets” and “Half Blood Prince” the enchantment that would block anyone from being able to fly onto the grounds of the school was ignored.)
However, there were a number of times that people entered or left the Hogwarts school WITHOUT going through a magic portal... The arrival of Ron and Harry in “Chamber of Secrets,” the arrival and departure of Charlie Weasley’s friends to pick up Norbert in the first book, Serious Black’s (and Harry’s, George’s, and Fred’s) repeated entry and exit through the secret tunnels, into Hogsmead, Harry’s entrance through the main gate and Harry and Dumbledore’s flying onto the school grounds on broomsticks in “Halfblood Prince.”
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Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry is organized:
* Dumbledore (a man) (#1)) Supreme Mugwump
* Snape (a man) (#2)
* Professor Minerva McGonagall (a woman) (#2) Deputy Headmistress (book 1, p. 51)
Parallels any occult order:
1. Imperitor (a man) (#1)
2. Temple Master (a man) (#2)
3. Cancellareous (a woman) (#2)
No one confronts the power of an Imperator. No one is more powerful than he. He rules the order.
Oh my goodness! You mean that an organization, like a school, has a heirarchy?!?!?! Do you home school? Because if you don’t, you might be shocked to learn that public, private, and yes, even religious day schools often have heirarchical organizations as well... They have positions known as “Principal,” “Vice Principal,” - oh no! “The principal of vice!” He or she must be especially evil! Seriously, Dumbledore is the Headmaster of Hogwarts, but he’s ALSO the Supreme Mugwump of the Wizagemot (sp?), which is sort of like the Supreme Court of Wizards in the HP world. BTW, he was removed from that post in Order of the Phoenix. Regarding Snape as #2, that’s just nonsense. He’s simply another teacher at Hogwarts. The only reason that he’s featured more prominantly in the HP books than other teachers (like McGonagall or Flitwick) is because he’s got a far more important roll in the stories.
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Harry learns how to cast spells.
Occultists manipulate elemental spirits, demonic entities, servitors, etc., as well as circumstances and people through spells, acts of will, creative visualizations, and ritual spells for their own benefit. (destruction spells, death spells)
I’d sort of assume that’s why someone would attend a school known as “Hogwarts school of Wichcraft and Wizardry. But what these children are learning is how to use and control powers that are innate within themselves. They are NOT channeling powers from other sources.
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Book 1, p. 114: There are four houses within the Hogwarts School: Slytherin, Ravenclaw, Gryffindor and Hufflepuff.
Each one probably represents an element. Air. Earth. Water. Fire. Since Hogwarts exists on the astral plane, that takes care of the fifth element - ethers. We do not know this yet by the end of book three.
The key word here is “probably.” It allows ALL SORTS of speculation. For instance, you could say that “the four poster beds in the dormitory rooms PROBABLY represents the 4 elements listed above.” Actually the four “Houses” represent the four founders of Hogwarts: And the members of those “Houses” are assigned by the qualities of the students, based on the qualities that founder valued the most.
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Book 1, 66. Harry has a spell book
Grimore — and occultist’s personal book of incantations.
I’m a network administrator... I’ve got LOTS of books on networks and computers. What’s the point here...
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Voldemort wants the sorcerer’s stone so he can “create” a new body for himself.
There really is a sorcerer’s stone — no comment on what it does or how it’s used — just know that it IS!
“The stone is real! We don’t know what it looks like, how it works, or how to use it, but we know it’s REAL and it exists!” OK.
Yes, at the end of the story, we learn that Voldemort wants the stone for his own use, in order to bring him fully back to strength, as well as granting him imortality, thoough the use of the “Elixer of Life.” Actually, the entire book leads us to that conclusion, and there are a number of wrong turns taken. It’s interesting that Dumbledore’s protection of the stone will only allow someone to get the store if they do not want the stone for themselves. And that the stone is purposely destroyed in the end.
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Book 1, p. 53. Harry was told that his parents died in a car crass. Actually they were psychically murdered.
In the occult world, people “die” by “accident” or “natural causes.”
In the non-HP (real) world, people die by accident and natural causes too. And sometimes they’re murdered as well.
“psychically murdered?” Not really, as the “killing curse” has has a physical manifestation, and as we saw in later books, you COULD dodge or hide behind objects, blocking the curse, just as with dodging or blocking a bullet. Or the curse could be misaimed. No, Harry’s parents were murdered, but by an evil wizard, using the weapons that an evil wizard in the HP world would use.
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Book 1, p. 138 and Book 3, p. 2. Harry uses a quill pen, ink and parchment paper to document his magical spells.
Standard occult practice — all occultists learn to document their spells in the initial stages of their training.
Of course, only evil occultists would ever take notes in classes while they’re going to school. I must have been a particularly evil occultist, given the sheer volume of notes I took in my physics and math classes... Well, at least I must have hated trees!
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Book 2, p. 20-21. Harry broke the decree for the restriction of underage wizardry because he had just done serious magick. He gets a reprimand. He does it again in book 3 when he attacks Aunt Marge. (p. 28-30)
AKA - he broke the rules of discretion that every occultists is well aware of. Occultist NEVER break the rules of discretion.
Book 3, p. 28-30. Harry attacks his aunt Marge for her disparaging comments about him and his family by placing a swelling spell on her.
Actually, this is wrong on BOTH parts. First off, Harry did NOT performed “serious magic.” The “house elf” dobby performed a “hover charm” which got Harry into loads of trouble, because the “monitor” that the ministry of magic uses can only detect when magic is used in a location, not who actually used it. So Harry was blamed, even though he didn’t actually perform the spell. Big difference.
Secondly, Harry did not attack “Aunt Marge,” at least not intentionally. Something learned in the first book (and is reinforced in the later books) was that underage wizards have certain magical abilities, which they can’t control. This was an example of that. This is also the reason for going to schools like Hogwarts: To learn to control their powers.
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What I’m getting at here is that there’s a lot in table that’s simply inaccurate, or even downright silly, based on the HP books.
Mark