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At Least 2 Dead After Two TV News Choppers Collide, Crash While Covering Car Chase in Phoenix
Fox News ^ | Friday July 27, 2007 | Milwaukee_Guy

Posted on 07/27/2007 1:17:37 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy

Phoenix — Two helicopters collided in midair and crashed while covering a police pursuit in central Phoenix Friday afternoon, killing at least two people. Both helicopters were news choppers from local television stations.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: carchase; christopherjones; crash; donutwatch; helicopter; policechase; tvchase
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Witnesses said they were on fire before they hit the ground.


81 posted on 07/27/2007 3:15:47 PM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I’d favor an A-10...


82 posted on 07/27/2007 3:17:31 PM PDT by null and void (We are a Nation of Laws... IGNORED Laws...)
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To: donna

Aw. This is awful.

Prayers for their families. How sad.


83 posted on 07/27/2007 3:17:40 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

The perp or the hostage?


84 posted on 07/27/2007 3:20:35 PM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: HungarianGypsy

Was just watching some footage from Phoenix channel 12 that provides a good example of the extreme double-standard of the media. The ‘copter reporter focuses on the blazing wreckage and says he doesn’t want to get closer because, “The people who are actually inside those helicopters could be really good friends of ours.”

I doubt any such sensitivity would be shown to chopper pilots in other professions in similar circumstances.


85 posted on 07/27/2007 3:21:32 PM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
...one station hovered over my house, for an hour, taping a -High School Football Game-

Probably not taping, but hovering and acting as a microwave relay platform.

The unit(s) on the ground do all the video and then have a microwave uplink to the chopper which relays to the teeheevee station for recording/broadcast.

Usually, if the chopper is photographing/videoing the actual scene, they will mostly circle, getting various shots/angles. Doing that, they don't usually need to hover for long periods. Acting as a microwave relay, they need to stay in one stationary place - thus hovering for long periods.

With your complaint (and possibly how many others???), they'd just have the chopper move off to another position and relay from there. Precise location isn't needed, but steady hovering would be, in order to be the "target" of the uplinks.

I'd suspect that the hovering would be most nerve wracking for the pilot, requiring the most precise control.

I think newer uplink equipment doesn't need the relay to be or stay in a precise location, like some of the older microwave stuff.

86 posted on 07/27/2007 3:24:35 PM PDT by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: donna

Molly “The Flying Dog” flies with [Craig] Smith in the mornings but was not aboard the aircraft during the collision.

Molly, a west highland white terrier, was fully trained by Vladae “The Russian Dog Wizard” to ride in Chopper15 with Smith. She sits inside a small, restrained portable pet carrier.


87 posted on 07/27/2007 3:25:08 PM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: JennysCool

When my dad was killed thirteen years ago I had to deal with the media. My husband and I learned how to “play” with them at the time. So, I have always been pretty anti-media. One station that was very sensitive was Channel 3. Sometimes they have had a couple of ya-hoos who either eventually left or learned to act more human. But, I have always liked the people on Channel 3. They always seemed like nice people overall.


88 posted on 07/27/2007 3:25:39 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Kaylee Frye

LOL......I could have written that better:)

just fer yew.....

shoot the engines and if necessary, the perps......never the hostages.....


89 posted on 07/27/2007 3:26:41 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: JennysCool

Yep, you and others are right on target here.

The deaths are a sad reality. So was the chase coverage they were producing.

While I do want to know what is taking place in my community, I do wish the media would keep the negative stories to ‘just the facts mam’, and provide a lot more positive information.


90 posted on 07/27/2007 3:26:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: JennysCool

I doubt any such sensitivity would be shown to chopper pilots in other professions in similar circumstances.
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True Dat,,,A Military crew would have been on the ground
in that open area if they thought they could help...


91 posted on 07/27/2007 3:27:39 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
If this did have to happen, why couldn’t it have been over OJs white Bronco? Then some good would have come of it.
92 posted on 07/27/2007 3:28:17 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: donna

Additional prayers for all.

Daughter flies Medical Copter out of SC. The air service
experienced 3 fatalities in 2004. I have latent fears every time she reports for a shift.


93 posted on 07/27/2007 3:28:52 PM PDT by buckalfa
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To: DoughtyOne

You cant charge that guy for an aviation accident....


94 posted on 07/27/2007 3:29:39 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Milwaukee_Guy; Tribune7
I'm following this via Philly's Channel 10 NBC website. They have the LIVE COVERAGE from KPHO Chan. 5 -- hit the "Live Coverage" link on the right under the vidlink.
95 posted on 07/27/2007 3:31:23 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: BurbankKarl

I agree Karl. Did you think I suggested that?

I do think the penalty for fleeing a persuing officer should be stiffened considerably.

Any persuit lasting over five minutes should result in imprisonment of the driver for ten years and the passengers for five years unless held hostage.

Any deaths that resulted from the chase should garner the driver the death penalty and the passengers at least ten years if they weren’t hostages.


96 posted on 07/27/2007 3:38:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Prayers for the families, and victims, of this horrible crash.


97 posted on 07/27/2007 3:40:06 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: buckalfa

Oh, that’s tough. She’s probably most needed during bad weather. She doing a lot of good.


98 posted on 07/27/2007 3:40:31 PM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: HungarianGypsy

I’m so sorry about your dad!


99 posted on 07/27/2007 3:42:01 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: DoughtyOne

Nah...I just think it is ridiculous to suggest it. I guess the Mayor of Phoenix is demanding it. What a clown.

The FAA report is going to blame the Air 3 pilot primarily, and the 15 guy too.


100 posted on 07/27/2007 3:43:39 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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