Posted on 07/26/2007 5:35:18 PM PDT by leadpenny
33 minutes ago
SAN FRANCISCO - Army medical examiners were suspicious about the close proximity of the three bullet holes in Pat Tillman's forehead and tried without success to get authorities to investigate whether the former NFL player's death amounted to a crime, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.
"The medical evidence did not match up with the, with the scenario as described," a doctor who examined Tillman's body after he was killed on the battlefield in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.
The doctors — whose names were blacked out — said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away.
Ultimately, the Pentagon did conduct a criminal investigation, and asked Tillman's comrades whether he was disliked by his men and whether they had any reason to believe he was deliberately killed. The Pentagon eventually ruled that Tillman's death at the hands of his comrades was a friendly-fire accident.
The medical examiners' suspicions were outlined in 2,300 pages of testimony released to the AP this week by the Defense Department in response to a Freedom of Information Act request.
Among other information contained in the documents:
• In his last words moments before he was killed, Tillman snapped at a panicky comrade under fire to shut up and stop "sniveling."
• Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments.
• The three-star general who kept the truth about Tillman's death from his family and the public told investigators some 70 times that he had a bad memory and couldn't recall details of his actions.
• No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene — no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck.
The Pentagon and the Bush administration have been criticized in recent months for lying about the circumstances of Tillman's death. The military initially told the public and the Tillman family that he had been killed by enemy fire. Only weeks later did the Pentagon acknowledge he was gunned down by fellow Rangers.
With questions lingering about how high in the Bush administration the deception reached, Congress is preparing for yet another hearing next week.
The Pentagon is separately preparing a new round of punishments, including a stinging demotion of retired Lt. Gen. Philip R. Kensinger Jr., 60, according to military officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because the punishments under consideration have not been made public.
In more than four hours of questioning by the Pentagon inspector general's office in December 2006, Kensinger repeatedly contradicted other officers' testimony, and sometimes his own. He said on some 70 occasions that he did not recall something.
At one point, he said: "You've got me really scared about my brain right now. I'm really having a problem."
Tillman's mother, Mary Tillman, who has long suggested that her son was deliberately killed by his comrades, said she is still looking for answers and looks forward to the congressional hearings next week.
"Nothing is going to bring Pat back. It's about justice for Pat and justice for other soldiers. The nation has been deceived," she said.
The documents show that a doctor who autopsied Tillman's body was suspicious of the three gunshot wounds to the forehead. The doctor said he took the unusual step of calling the Army's Human Resources Command and was rebuffed. He then asked an official at the Army's Criminal Investigation Division if the CID would consider opening a criminal case.
"He said he talked to his higher headquarters and they had said no," the doctor testified.
Also according to the documents, investigators pressed officers and soldiers on a question Mrs. Tillman has been asking all along.
"Have you, at any time since this incident occurred back on April 22, 2004, have you ever received any information even rumor that Cpl. Tillman was killed by anybody within his own unit intentionally?" an investigator asked then-Capt. Richard Scott.
Scott, and others who were asked, said they were certain the shooting was accidental.
Investigators also asked soldiers and commanders whether Tillman was disliked, whether anyone was jealous of his celebrity, or if he was considered arrogant. They said Tillman was respected, admired and well-liked.
The documents also shed new light on Tillman's last moments.
It has been widely reported by the AP and others that Spc. Bryan O'Neal, who was at Tillman's side as he was killed, told investigators that Tillman was waving his arms shouting "Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat (expletive) Tillman, damn it!" again and again.
But the latest documents give a different account from a chaplain who debriefed the entire unit days after Tillman was killed.
The chaplain said that O'Neal told him he was hugging the ground at Tillman's side, "crying out to God, help us. And Tillman says to him, `Would you shut your (expletive) mouth? God's not going to help you; you need to do something for yourself, you sniveling ..."
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Associated Press reporters Scott Lindlaw in Las Vegas and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington contributed to this story.
Whether I have or I haven’t has nothing to do with it. Neither you nor I were at that scene.
I’m ashamed that a fellow veteran would vilify a mother who just wants the truth.
Several rounds hitting the same target in close proximity more likely indicates nothing more than the auto-select was on auto.
Accidents happen.
Don’t speak for me. Thanks.
I don’t believe this unit had been in combat very long
When out there in hostile territory where the enemy may be behind a rock over there, or building here, etc. your gut is anything but calm. A rustling noise may have a response of 100 rounds. The American GI can throw out some lead - big time.
These are times when one makes snap judgements, sometime they are mistakes. Survival of you and your buddies is paramount, as is the mission.
I doubt investigators can really understand the conditions present at such times - how could they? And, as you should well know, eight people on patrol will give eight versions, same as an auto accident down at the corner.If the stories were identical, you know there is a cover-up.
I don’t know what happened in the Tillman matter - I doubt anyone else really knows either.
One line says they were under fire and and line says there was no evidence of enemy fire at the scene. Does that mean their own guys were firing at them?
That’s what I understand.
yawn
So how can this statement be true if there was no evidence of enemy fire?
From early reports it was stated that Tillman and his men were wearing local garb. But honestly since I or no one else here has read the actual reports from the field it’s hard to say what really happened. Bottom line is it was a terrible accident that happens in war. It’s a shame the chain of command didn’t do the right thing and caused this to be blown totally out of proportion. Pat Tillman should be honored for his service and not used by his family or the media as reason to not fight this war.
In case anyone is wondering what the real target is with the AP, here’s a couple of clues:
“...The Pentagon and the Bush administration have been criticized in recent months for lying about the circumstances of Tillman’s death...”
“... With questions lingering about how high in the Bush administration the deception reached...”
“...The nation has been deceived...”
Agreed my FRiend.
They may even shoot him before he kills another.
I'm with you...this is part of the media's "Chinese Water Torture" tactic to slowly turn American against it's military....and I'm frigging disgusted at a surprisingly large bunch of FReeper posts above this that are falling sucker to it.
It's just a horrible tragedy, for him, his family, the Army, the nation... Makes me sick.
Wasn't his brother present during the firefight? What does he have to say about all this? Anyone know?
There's yet a real enemy to be fought. God help us all.
“In his last words moments before he was killed, Tillman snapped at a panicky comrade under fire to shut up and stop “sniveling.”
It just says "under fire", it doesn't say anything about enemy fire. It was friendly fire.
That also explains the three bullet holes at close proximity. The trigger group on an M-16 has three safety positions: safe, single, and three-round burst, and the rifle has very light recoil, which means one pull of the trigger could discharge three closely-grouped shots.
There are several Freepers here who are against the war and they aren’t against using MSM hype and biased reporting to make their point. This article is nothing but a continued hit job on the military and the current administration.
IIRC, he wasn't...he was in the general vicinity, but entirely out of the loop.
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