Merchants: AK-47s good for business; Critics fear powerful rifles might land in wrong hands

herald online ^ | 07/26/07 | Adam O'Daniel

[Badeye]

In 1981 Handgun Control Inc.(Brady Campaign today), put out a statment that they ONLY wanted to control handguns. Long guns would not be affected.
I can give you a list from the 1960’s to today of lies told by these people.

I know. I’m on your side, you do understand this, right?

I own several weapons they classify the same as the AK47’s in this article. AR-10 is one of them, in .308

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***A particularly outrageous and bold-faced lie. ***

Actually that is not true. I have some old magazines (Guns and Ammo and others) that used the terms way back in the 1970’s and early 80’s. G&A put out several special issues titled ASSAULT RIFLES before the ban craze started. The publishers of Handgun Tests, Pistolero also put out a nice issue along with seeveral independent publishers.

Well guess what! I just happen to have them in front of me right now! Still good reading!

Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.

[nonsporting]

From 1994 to 2004, a federal ban on assault weapons, including AK-47s, limited the kinds of guns dealers could sell. Dresner said the AK-47 was still sold, but only with magazines that held three rounds or less. The ban expired in 2004 and the guns can now be purchased with up to 100 round drums, Dresner said.

1. The 1994 Crime Bill did not cover "AK-47s". It only covered SEMI-AUTOMATIC rifles which could accept magazines in excess of 10 rounds. NFA'34 regulates FULLY-AUTOMATIC weaons like the AK-47.
2. There was no prohibition against selling said SEMI-AUTOMATIC rifles with magazines containing more than three (3) rounds. My Hungarian FEG came with a five (5) round magazine. I purchased as many thirty (30) round magazines as I wanted.
3. 100 round drums were available for purchase, even though the population of such drums had been frozen due to the "AWB" prohibition from importation of magazines >10 rounds.
4. After the sunset of the "AWB" little changed except that the price of NORMAL capacity magazines was restored to unskewed market value and certain "cosmetic features", which did not alter the function of the weapon, were no longer disallowed. However, there were already so many chicom mags in country, I doubt the prices changed all that much, except for 100 round drums. And instead of a pressed and pin "compensator", you can now have a threaded "flash supressor" and a bayo lug!

We should insist on precision in language and not allow them to "gloss over" very important distinctions, which failure to follow will land the prospective gun-buyer in club Fed. If they don't understand the laws, then we should insist they be repealed. If what they really want is the banning of all weapons, let's have at it.

[Myrddin]

Guns are manufactured for the sole reason of killing things.

BS. You're getting sucked into the liberal lies. I have a safe full of a variety of firearms. I have fired thousands of rounds from most of them. The only firearms in that safe that have been aimed at living things are my old bolt action .22LR rabbit rifle and a shotgun I received as part of my family estate. The other rounds were directed at precision target shooting or spinners on a target range. There are a few collectibles that have never been fired.

[ozzymandus]

I am constantly amazed at how stupid the reporters who write these gun control agitprop pieces are. Apparently the editors are equally stupid.

[Billthedrill]

Ragbourn said the term "assault weapon" was coined by the gun industry years ago as a marketing tool.

You are, I am sure, aware that the term "assault rifle" is a time-honored and specific term referring to a rifle-caliber firearm with selective fire. "Assault weapon" is the term in question here. Do your magazines reference "assault weapons" or "assault rifles"? If the former I shall stand corrected.

[TexConfederate1861]

I have a Mosin-Nagant that uses the same ammo.
And it is a BOLT_ACTION.

I agree. The author is stupid.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

From Guns and Ammo..
ASSAULT RIFLES..1982..COMPLETE DATA ON SEMI-AUTOS FROM ARMALITE-BERETTA-COLT FN-H&K...

INTERNATIONAL COMBAT ARMS 1983..ASSAULT RIFLE ROUNDUP: Military and Civilian.

ASSAULT FIREARMS..1984

ASSAULT RIFLES..1992

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SHOOTER’S SURVIVAL GUIDE 1981..Assault Rifles for Defense

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ASSAULT WEAPONS (Publishers of Handgun Tests) 1983..ASSAULT RIFLES.COLT AR 15, RUGER MINI-14,
FN FAL, M1,
H & K, AKM, UZI

Not to mention some of the old SWAT magazines I also have.

[activationproducts]

No you don’t. 7.62 X54R (which is what your Mosin Nagant is chambered for) and 7.62 X 39 are very different cartridges.

[TexConfederate1861]

My apologies, Sir...I was under the impression that the AK-47 took 7.62X54......I stand corrected :)

[TalonDJ]

Probably Bulgaria (former east bloc), not Belgium (west bloc).

Yep. It is an Arsenal.

[Jack Hammer]

“The same type of gun commonly used by Iraqi security forces is legally being sold to civilians in Rock Hill.”

Pure, unadulterated bullsh*t, of course, but we’ve come to expect no less from MSM reports on the gun issue.

[FortWorthPatriot]

"The first lie really was that he called an AK-47 a powerful rifle. People can buy hunting rifles that are much more powerful."

Indeed.

[wastedyears]

If your life is threatened, I think you’re going to use whatever is in your hand at the time.

[DMZFrank]

I have no problem with firearms that are capable of killing criminals who pose an imminent threat to your or another innocent’s life, armed enemies of this nation or as many gun grabbing tyrants as is necessary to protect liberty and the consdtitution.

[MileHi]

Ragbourn said the term "assault weapon" was coined by the gun industry years ago as a marketing tool.

Nonsense. Can you say Josh Sugarman? Sure you can.

[Chewbacca]

I would rather purchase a PS-90.

[Myrddin]

If your life is threatened, I think you’re going to use whatever is in your hand at the time.

Non sequitur. You claimed guns are only made for killing. I pointed out that only one firearm in my substantial collection has ever been used to kill anything. My bolt action .22LR rifle put rabbits on my table in high school. The rest of the firearms have been used for nothing but plinking and target practice. You're attempting to switch issues or replying to the wrong post.

[Travis McGee]

Oh brother, not this $#!+ again!

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***Nonsense. Can you say Josh Sugarman? Sure you can.***

Can you say Mel Tappan 1977?

And here is some more magazines that I have in front of me right now..

SWAT SHOWDOWN ‘83 1983

SURVIVAL WEAPONS AND TACTICS...1983

THE COMPLETE BOOK OF ASSAULT RIFLES 1985.

Josh Sugarman didn’t write his diatribe till 1988.