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Bush: Americans will realize need for aliens
The Washington Times ^ | July 20, 2007 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 07/20/2007 6:17:46 PM PDT by Baladas

President Bush yesterday said Americans will soon realize they need the immigrants and foreign temporary workers that would have been allowed by his immigration bill, which was defeated in the Senate last month.

Mr. Bush, in a town hall session in Nashville, Tenn., also refused to say whether he will pardon two U.S. Border Patrol agents convicted of shooting a fleeing drug-smuggling suspect, saying the prosecutor was a friend of his who made his case to the jury that convicted the agents.

If Mr. Bush was hoping the immigration issue would disappear after his bill's failure, those hopes were dashed, as he was asked repeatedly about border security during the forum — meant to highlight his commitment to cutting the deficit.

"The bill failed and I can't make a prediction to you at this point, sir, where it's going to head," the president told one questioner. "I can make you a prediction, though, that pretty shortly people are going to be knocking on people's doors saying, man, we're running out of workers."

Mr. Bush said there are workers who will do jobs Americans aren't doing in the agriculture sector in particular, and without them the jobs will go unfilled.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderfence; caca; crimaliens; digitdeeper; georgebush; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; tr; unemployment; useconomy
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To: CAluvdubya

You raised the bar for the OBL again!

;<)


701 posted on 07/23/2007 9:30:49 AM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Eaker; DCPatriot; bray

I’ve been busy for the past couple days and have not even been at the computer. Thus your accusations of my avoiding you and your friends falls flat. As to responding to you and your friends, I won’t. I will now refuse to play these games with people who wear the white pointy hats you use to disguise yourselves with. Believe what you will regarding your alleged points and how you’ve flamed me. Your pointless drivel means nothing. Enjoy your hatefilled life. I’ll spend my time in dialogue with people who can reason rationally.


702 posted on 07/23/2007 9:45:33 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: Grunthor

Yes, and if you’ve been paying attention to the DimocRats lately, they now believe that because the President’s polls numbers are so low they can introduce a bill of sensure against him on the war. What they don’t realize is that it isn’t so much the war that people are so upset about, but the immigration reform bill that failed and the Bush Administrations failure to secure the borders. They also are not paying much attention to their own poll numbers. These people don’t get it and probably never will. They are so arrogant.


703 posted on 07/23/2007 9:50:21 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: DCPatriot
1) Our culture...whatever that means...will be just fine. There’s 330 MILLION of us and 20 million of ‘them’. Proportionately...lower than the immigration in the late 19th/early 20th centuries. It’s ‘normal’ for immigrants to collect together. Ever heard of Chinatown or Little Italy in assorted cities across this great land?

We reproduce at a rate that barley keeps up to the death rate. They are reproducing at a rate that will make them the majority voting demographic in three generations. It’s not just “20 million of them”...it’s the 20 million of them, the next generation that will increase their total population to over 70 million, and the following generation that will grow their population to approach 200 million.

2) Economy. If you think these immigrants are ruining our economy, then you’ve been in a coma the past 7 years. Can’t help you there.

They’re taking more out of the economy than they contribute, that’s a net loss. They take out more from our economy in the form of taxpayer-funded services than they contribute. The average illegal is a NET financial LOSS to the US economy! Obviously you can’t “help” because you’re part of the problem.

3) Nation. See #1. Also, they are a great replacement for the 40+ million aborted Americans lost to Roe v Wade.

Illiterate illegal immigrant criminals are not a “replacement” for an American citizen.

704 posted on 07/23/2007 10:10:40 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: DCPatriot

“You’re on the wrong side on this issue.”

The “wrong side” of this issue is the side that’s advocating for those who intentionally disobey our laws to be rewarded with citizenship, or even with legal status.


705 posted on 07/23/2007 10:56:26 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: SoldierDad

Kudos to you SoldierDad!


706 posted on 07/23/2007 11:29:34 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: SoldierDad; bray; Niteflyr; Borax Queen; org.whodat; Grunthor; CAluvdubya; RavenATB; wtc911; ...
You made posts to this thread after mine without addressing mine and many others. Particularly post# 493. Specifically #'s 599, 600 and 601 are yours.

Your statement proves you to be a liar.

You cannot address my posts and have been proven the fool by your last post stating that you have been away.

Take yer donkey and tip the hell out of here. We don't need illegal alien criminals or their proponents in America. If Mexico is so great move down there and plow a field with bray doing donkey duty. See what hoops must be jumped through to live in Mexico. They DO NOT allow illegal alien criminals in their country.

Here is a link that you will never click on as liberals never want the truth to be revealed.


Info on Mexican Immigration Policy

707 posted on 07/23/2007 11:30:09 AM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: DCPatriot

Even if what you suggest is true (and I believe it largely is), I do have issue with those (and granted, it’s not all of them) who wish to come here and yet believe we should cowtow to them by speaking Spanish, or, worse yet, march around OUR cities with signs suggesting they think Texas is part of Mexico.

What do you make of that part of the issue? Or the fact that some evidence suggests terrorists are using the Mexican and Canadian borders to enter?

I have no problem with guest workers and such - but I do think there has to be some level of control on it.


708 posted on 07/23/2007 11:32:58 AM PDT by RockinRight (Fred Thompson once set fire to a crowd of liberals simply by smoking a cigar and looking upon them)
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To: Eaker

You are a disgrace to FreeRepublic, IMO.


709 posted on 07/23/2007 11:36:54 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot

I consider that a compliment coming from you.

Thanks.


710 posted on 07/23/2007 11:45:52 AM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Eaker; bray; Niteflyr; Borax Queen; org.whodat; Grunthor; CAluvdubya; RavenATB; wtc911; ...
SINCE YOU DON'T SEEM TO GET IT WHEN I TRY TO REASON WITH YOU IN A THOUGHFUL AND RATIONAL WAY, I'LL NOW SHOUT IT TO YOU! I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. I'VE NEVER POSTED THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. I WANT OUR BORDERS SECURED. I WANT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION TO STOP. I WANT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM THIS COUNTRY. WHAT OF ANY OF THESE THINGS ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY IN DISAGREEMENT ON?

Now, if you can stop being thick headed and posting inane stupidity, maybe a real dialogue can be had between us. If not, then stop wasting people's time. I'm all in favor of having our government held accountable for enforcing our immigration laws and protecting our citizens from illegal alien criminals that come here just to prey upon all of us. I'm not in favor of anything that IMHO would seriously injure this country. So, as soon as you and your friends have a comprehensive and WORKABLE solution to this problem, please, by all means, go before Congress and present your plan. If, after all this, all you want to do is cast aspersions, hurl insults, or make inane and useless comments, then do not respond. For, if you do, this will be our last communication on this topic. I will not waste any further time on stupidity.

711 posted on 07/23/2007 11:54:52 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: SoldierDad; Eaker; SoCalPol
I’ve been busy for the past couple days and have not even been at the computer. Thus your accusations of my avoiding you and your friends falls flat.
Okay so you're obviously here now. Looking forward to your response to Eaker.

As to responding to you and your friends, I won’t.
Of course you won't. There is no good defense to allowing illegal aliens to take over our country.

I will now refuse to play these games with people who wear the white pointy hats you use to disguise yourselves with.

Oooh, the race card. Typical. Surely if someone is sick of paying for services for someone who sneaks across our borders, we just don't like the color of their skin. What a fallback argument.

Believe what you will regarding your alleged points and how you’ve flamed me. Your pointless drivel means nothing.

*AHEM*........."I will now refuse to play these games with people who wear the white pointy hats you use to disguise yourselves with"

Enjoy your hatefilled life.

I don't have the extra money to pay for illegals routine health visits, since they don't have insurance or pay taxes, so my hospital is closing...Your response, "You hate Mexicans!"

I’ll spend my time in dialogue with people who can reason rationally.

Translation: "I'll spend my time in dialogue with people who don't ever disagree with me"

712 posted on 07/23/2007 11:55:54 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (DUNCAN HUNTER '08 (I'll add Thompson if he ever decides to enter the race))
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To: RockinRight
Hey there B----! Como esta?

My grandfather could only speak Italian. He was at a terrible disadvantage here and thus gravitated to others that spoke his language.

He worked at Republic Steel...as a laborer. He picked dandelions in Cazenovia Park and brought them home to cook and eat. He sometimes brought pigeons home and killed them in or basement...and prepared them several different ways. To this little boy, he looked poor, dumb and stupid.

But...his daughter...my late mother, only spoke English and understood Italian. She raised 4 children who never brought the police to our door.

And his great-grand daughter...my child is an honors graduate of Princeton and in her last year of law school at Yale.

Two other sons own their own real estate company.

I am not inconvenienced by being prompted to choose English vs Spanish. It's a temporary solution to assist new future citizens.

I've always supported a protected border...but I also support a free market and an expanded guest-worker program.

713 posted on 07/23/2007 11:56:11 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
I've always supported a protected border...but I also support a free market and an expanded guest-worker program.

We have no disagreements there. I have to admit though it does feel like I'm in a foreign country in some areas of MontCo...although I guess it depends on how you look at it. My biggest concern is really that 90% of them will be liberal Democrats...

714 posted on 07/23/2007 11:58:37 AM PDT by RockinRight (Fred Thompson once set fire to a crowd of liberals simply by smoking a cigar and looking upon them)
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To: DCPatriot

While I’m against illegal immigration, while I want our borders secured, while I want all those illegal immigrants who come here simply to commit further crimes and prey upon all of us, I don’t see the answers to these problems as being as simple minded as these people do. I cannot stand people who just love to hate for hate’s sake. I also don’t like being accused of things I don’t advocate for or things I didn’t say. These posts from these people are irritating (really more than that, but I don’t wish to be banned - I don’t think I can give my true feelings as that would cause me more problems than I care to endure - I have too much respect for this forum).


715 posted on 07/23/2007 12:00:54 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: Eaker; DCPatriot

Thank you for being on the legal citizens side against this illegal alien fiasco.


716 posted on 07/23/2007 12:01:45 PM PDT by seemoAR (Absolute power corrupts absolutely)
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To: Baladas
Mr. Bush for gosh sakes wake up!

We have a way for people born in other countries to come here - and we the American people are in favor of this legal means of entering the country.

And we already have a Guest Worker Program and we realize there is a need for a number a people from other countries to be employed here temporarily - from run-way models to fruit pickers, but laws must be inforced so that when their work is done they go home....

717 posted on 07/23/2007 12:01:46 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: SoldierDad

Why include me on your rant? I haven’t posted to you since you made your position clear.


718 posted on 07/23/2007 12:06:04 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: SoldierDad

You’re preaching to the choir here, SD. Cheers!


719 posted on 07/23/2007 12:13:26 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: wtc911; SoldierDad
???

Why the heck to you include your posse on a lot of posts to me? And why are you still posting to me when I've asked you many times to cease and desist?

Why the heck do you continuously follow me around the forum and ping all your buddies?

Because you're a xenophobic hate-filled stalker who loves to stir up trouble, that's why.

You should be ashamed of yourself asking anyone how many rapes and murders are enough when arguing the merits or lack thereof of illegal immigrants.

My Lord...how low can you get?

720 posted on 07/23/2007 12:22:31 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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