Posted on 07/15/2007 7:25:50 AM PDT by badgerlandjim
Today a Louisiana Federal Jury found Attorney Tommy Cryer NOT GUILTY of 2 counts of willful failure to file an income tax return. Earlier on Monday July 9th the Government had on its own motion dismissed 2 counts of tax evasion charges that it had charged Tommy Cryer with.
(Excerpt) Read more at wingswatchman.org ...
That’s good for him, but it does not mean the next jury will do the same thing.
That’s true, but I’m encouraged that at least one guy beat ‘em.
When I read this article I was reminded of something my Grandfather told my Dad when teaching him about defensive driving. My Dad told the same to me and I’ve told the same to my kids: “ You can be dead right or dead wrong, but you’re dead either way.”
Tommy won. But how much did it cost him to win? Here’s another quote: “Don’t try this at home kids.”
I wasnt aware of the whole story, this enlightened me.
It opened up thought.
Yeah, it’s only for the brave, even though they be right.
The more one delves into the original basis for an income tax the one’s thoughts ARE opened.
LINK: http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007707130321
Wonder if the story will get picked up by the wire services and published in other papers?
Well, having the personal income tax declared unconstitutional would certainly be one way to motivate our congresscritters to work on tax reform, wouldn’t it?
Thanks for posting the link. I hesitated to because I was barred from posting from the Shreveport Times. And no, I don’t think the mainstream press will give this much play.
This is not the victory everyone thinks it is. He still owes the tax. The jury only aquitted him of the criminal charges of willful failure to file. That is, the jury believed that he believed he did not have to file.. therefore it is not a crimianl case. But he still owes the tax.
So what did he win? Years of legal expenses... plus the tax. He would have been better off paying the tax to begin with.
As evil as it may be, you are never going to convince any branch of the government that you do not have to pay it. Every angle has been tried, and it has been a failure.
God bless him for fighting and I sure hope he wins but does it matter?
Here’s my take on the income tax: I believe it is unconstitutional. I also believe the Supreme Court knows it is unconstitutional.
But does any rational man believe the Supreme Court will overturn this tax if the result is chaos for the Federal Government? No they will continue to look the other way in order to keep the Government running.
All great (meaning large and long lasting) organizations when faced with a choice of organization vs. constituent pick the organization.
We already ignore many parts of the Constitution when they are inconvenient to current desired purposes. This one is no different.
So you are saying the idea that there is no legal basis for citizens to pay income tax is a scam, and that theis lawyer, Cryer, foolishly bought into it and ruined his business?
This sets no precedent, since no issue was settled by court ruling.
In addition, the fact that the IRS offered literally no rebuttal or defense to his points means that there is something else here that is going on out of the public eye, but I do not have any idea what that would be.
The short answer is yes. But, I am open to the possibility that these tax protestors are techinically correct, but that it doesn't matter because all of their arguments have been struck down by the courts. In the US, courts essentially have lawmaking power by their rulings, and if the original IRS laws did not require certain taxes, the courts have interpreted that they do.
My thought on that is that the IRS is scared that they won't be able to criminally charge every tax protestor if there ever gets to be a ruling by a federal appeals court that goes against them in one of these cases... so when a guy fights enough they just let him slide in a manner that creates no precedent.
The idea that there is no legal basis for citizens to pay income tax is a scam. End of story.
Believing that you don’t have to pay income tax is up there with believing that the moon landings were done on a sound stage or that President Bush was behind 9/11 or believing that the Constitution has a right to abortion somewhere in the text.
The last one is the trick right? Because the asshats at NOW/PP got a fake anti-life amendment put in, the tax people think they can get teh 16th taken out.
I think if we go back far enough we’d find it was a bunch of LAWYERS turned politicians who came up with this whole Federal income tax\IRS concept in the first place. If somebody’s got to beat them at their own game I’d rather it WASN’T a lawyer !!!
Well ok. But when you say that you usually got barraged by people who insist that if only you would just read thier 1,000 page book, or, a few months ago someone here suggested that I had to watch a 2 hour youtube clip, then you would know the truth.
Therefore I just skip to saying that even if the tax protestors have some sort of technical point, it doesn't matter.
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