[Earthdweller]

"... but that's better than committing suicide as a nation."

You mean like having illegals everywhere? Gee..last I checked, there are still here.

[nyconse]

Yes but they are still illegals and have no permanent ‘rights’. How can you not understand this.

[Swordfished]

"... but that's better than committing suicide as a nation."

You mean like having illegals everywhere? Gee..last I checked, there are still here.

the existence of illegals everywhere didn't happen overnight. it was a long process. that long process of anarchy is a nation slowly dying. it continues to die as long as we don't secure the border and don't find out who's already here illegally.

the bill would have been a national suicide attempt - when that was avoided, that is cause to celebrate a major battle in a larger war.