Posted on 06/24/2007 2:09:40 PM PDT by Josh Painter
STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- Watch out for Fred Thompson.
That was Sen. Chuck Schumer's advice for those running for president, especially those seeking the GOP presidential nomination, including former Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
"The person I'd worry about on the Republican side if I were Giuliani, or a Democrat, is Thompson," Schumer told us during a recent visit to Staten Island.
Schumer explained: "The best Republican formula for them is a conservative who seems to be a nice, real person, as opposed to a hard-edged person. And that's how Thompson appears."
Not that we should take that as a knock against Giuliani, who can be a little, well, intense.
"I've always gotten along well with Giuliani," said Schumer. "I worked with him on the crime bill and many other things. The question is: Is his stand on choice going to hurt him in the country at large?"
Schumer said he didn't think that Sen. John McCain of Arizona or former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney were going to end up doing that well in the GOP race.
We asked Schumer what he made in particular of McCain, the onetime GOP heir apparent whose campaign never really seemed to catch fire even before Republicans started abandoning him over the immigration bill.
"In 2000, he was the big independent," said Schumer. "For some reason, now he embraced George Bush. And Bush's popularity is low."
Regardless of who the GOP candidate turns out to be, Schumer said 2008 is shaping up to be "a good Democratic year."
"The average middle-class person, for the first time in a while, is saying, 'I may need some help from the government,'" to pay for health care, a home or their children's tuition, he said...
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“What exactly is this Fred worship based on??!!”
Since you asked, most republicans obviously believe he is electable. That, alone, is a very good reason to support a candidate.
I see from your tag line a hint that you disagree.
It's not Fred worship...it's simply knowing who can beat the beast and who cannot...
Freds position on a whole host of topics is available here
Fred is truly the closest we have been to a Reagan style Thinker since... well Reagan...
Your opportunity to see him campaign is coming soon...and based on what I have heard him say in the past couple of months... I do not think you will be disappointed...
Sure, that’s why the ONLY attack email sent out by the DNC so far is against Fred.
Fred’s the closest candidate to Reagan we’ve had in the last twenty years. No, he’s not Reagan but he’s head and shoulders above any of the Rudy McRomney bunch.
Yes, campaigns change everything. The competence of a candidate changes everything. Fred Thompson has shown incompetence thus far and has never shown leadership while in the Senate. He doesn’t deserve the worship he is getting. And he will never get my support. I want the party to change and I want a strong leader and will continue to support my candidate STRONGLY contrary to the attempts to feed me the BS of the Thompson or other campaigns and how they supposedly can ‘win’.
Look pan...
There is no credibility in trying to convince that someone can beat the beast at this point. Polls mean nothing and change all the time, especially in the heat of a campaign and the stupidity of certain candidates. But, then again, we are not getting an opportunity to see Fred have to withstand a tough campaign because Fred thinks it’s ok to let this play out like it has been going. It’s incompetent and unworthy of being considered a real candidate yet the support he gets is based on hype and being somewhat acceptable on paper as ‘conservative’ when he has shown he is not always in the best judgment ala McCain-Feingold. And that is a MAJOR issue. It killed McCain in 2000! Yet we are all supposed to fall in line with a dud. And Thompson is a dud. He is certainly no Reagan.
NO, he’s not. Duncan Hunter is the closest thing to Reagan to come along, period. And yet I think Hunter would surpass Reagan with having called it right on amnesty and I don’t think Hunter would have put up with the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon. I am confident I support the man who this country needs as President, not who they think can win only to be shown there are no ‘sure things’ and campaigns change everything. Funny how the GOP is so obsessed with celebrity and polls. Goes to show that it really isn’t the place for me and I’m done after this fiasco.
If McPain runs with Fred no vote from me!!!!....
Chuckie gets it!
"The average middle-class person, for the first time in a while, is saying, 'I may need some help from the government,'" to pay for health care, a home or their children's tuition...
Chuckie is also pure evil!!!
Chuckie helped get Democrat senators elected by having them run conservative campaigns and he’s trouncing the GOP counterparts in fundraising.
His politics are abhorent, but he’s not exactly an idiot and has shown some adeptness at building a majority coalition. Granted the Reps have bent over to help him by taking leftist positions, but what he says shouldn’t be completely dismissed. His analysis on the GOP race in re: to Rudy and Thompson is actually sound. A friendly conservative face is the GOP’s strongest suit in elections. And Rudy’s social poitions hurt him in the gop otherwise rudy would have this locked up by now.
When he starts rambling about how Americans are finally ready for more government interference, as if Katrina and amnesty haven’t repelled them enough, he turns back into the Leftist hack he is.
“We haven’t even had the opportunity to witness him campaign and get a true evaluation in how he’ll hold up.”
Duncan Hunter has been campaigning for months, and he still can’t take any major jumps in the polls. Nothing against Hunter, but if he wants to be president he needs to ramp up his campaign, and get things moving.
What an absolutely horrid thought to think -- a free person saying "I need some help from the government". Chuckie is celebrating, yea, wallowing in the (hoped for) forthcoming dependency of the middle class.
Only a politician wishes for a dependent middle class.
Hopefully, his celebration is premature.
Well at least Upchuck Schumer got something right, he admits that he and Rudy are thick as thieves when it comes to denying Americans our 2nd Amendment rights as they apparently conspired together to do with the crime bill. Schumer is the most fervently anti-2nd Amendment Senator in the current Senate, and as the saying goes, birds of a feather flock together.
AFAIK Rudy has never backed off an inch from his advocacy for enactment of far more restrictive gun control laws cast from the same mold as the abominable NYC laws he vigorously supported and enforced as mayor. Bottom line, if you like Chuckie's stand on everything from gun control to illegal immigration to "gay" marriage to taxpayer funded abortion on demand, you'll absolutely love Rudy's position on those same issues.
The big mystery to my mind is why anyone who calls him or her self a conservative Republican would support a northeastern liberal RINO for the GOP presidential nomination who is much closer to Shmucky Schumer's ultra liberal positions on virtually every important issue than he is to any real Republican's position on the same issues. The Rudytooters will say that they back him because he can win and he is registered as Republican. I'm not at all sure of that, but even if true, winning an election on that basis would be the most hollow, Pyrrhic, "victory" imaginable. It would be analogous to saying that we won the Viet Nam war because the brutal North Vietnamese communists who took over the south were members of the same species as we are.
Perhaps if certain Duncan Hunter fans spent less time attacking Fred and more time promoting Hunter, their guy wouldn’t be mired near the bottom of the GOP pack in both popular support and fundraising.
“Perhaps if certain Duncan Hunter fans spent less time attacking Fred and more time promoting Hunter, their guy wouldn’t be mired near the bottom of the GOP pack in both popular support and fundraising.”
I was just saying:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1855751/posts?page=51#51
One in the same?
http://draftfredthompson.com/index.php/topic,5465.0.html
Thanks for the advice, but I’m more concerned about the possible election of someone like Fred Thompson. If he’s all that you think he is, then me thinks thou doth protest too much and that again, is a red flag.
Duncan Hunter does NOT have fans. He has supporters and it is rock stars, actors, sports celebrities et al who have fans. This is the nomination process and it is precisely for the purpose of vetting candidates and making sure we are offering America our best.
IMHO Fred's being very competent by running his campaign the way he is. What's competent in campaigning is what works; Fred's campaign is working really well. After all, it's gotten him to number 1, but still within the margin of error, in the most recent Rasmussen poll. One or two reports that I don't have links to also say he's doing very well in fund raising. It looks to me like he's doing the old actor's trick of teasing the audience, building anticipation to an unbearable level, so it will all release itself in a huge, orgasmic ovation when he finally comes onto the stage. Elvis, another Tennessean, did the same thing and it really worked well for him.
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