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To: dirtboy
Mormons are anti-trinitarian. They deny the sufficiency of the Bible alone as the word of God. They believe that Jehovah had many sons in eternity and that Jesus Christ is the half brother of Lucifer. Mormons also believe that faiful followers of Joseph Smith will populate other planets.

Mormonism is clearly outside the pale of traditional christianity. I find it troubling that any statement rightly identifying this group as a cult is dismissed as bigotry. It is also troubling that many Americans consider this a christian religion.

While I do not think that being Mormon necessarily disqualifies someone from being POTUS, it definitely suggests that Romney's judgment on important matters is somewhat questionable.

16 posted on 06/23/2007 1:53:54 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

According to the young men who visited my house, the morman belief in the Smith tablets found buried in upstate New York is based on Isiah 29:4

“And thou shalt be brought down, and shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy voice shall be, as of one that hath a familiar spirit, out of the ground, and thy speech shall whisper out of the dust.”

Hence the tablets are the word of God. So, I told them I was ready to join up and would they bring their leader with them the following week so I could do what I needed to do to join up. So the next week the leader came with them. I told them I had just two additional questions.

First I asked if they believed the word of God was the same yesterday, today and forever. They answered quite vigorously in the affirmative.

Then I pointed out the following:

Leviticus 20:27
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

1 Chronicles 10:13
So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the LORD, even against the word of the LORD, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it;

2 Chronicles 33:6
And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

Then I asked them why Joseph Smith should not have been put to death for consorting with a familiar spirit. The young men were shocked and waited for the leader to answer. He didn’t and rushed them out of the house without answering the second question.

I’ve never met a morman who answered my second question.

Satan, the familiar spirit, will always draw attention to himself. That is his prideful nature—and his and his followers downfall.


22 posted on 06/23/2007 2:27:26 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Mormons are not alone as Non-Trinitarians. In fact, Trinitarianism was agreed upon by the Council of Nicea with the encouragement of the Emperor Constantine in an attempt to unify Chirstian thought.

Even among the originalist Catholics, there has been a considerable amount of change in what the mainstream subscribed to at the time. In Joan of Arc's time, burning witches or heretics, for instance, was considered mainstream Christianity.

While there may be, in some dark corners of Christianity, extremists who still subscribe to such once-mainstream views, most of us have moved on and are happy to welcome into the fold of Christ those who may not entirely share current mainstream views.

I, for one, tire of the self-appointed Christian Taliban who feel that they should decide who does and who doesn't belong among Christians.

I have lived among Mormon majorities at various times in my life and would have to observe that while life there may be a bit dull for some tastes (few bars, night clubs and whorehouses), they are generally pleasant and tolerant places to live. Unlike areas where followers of the Church of Godlessness are a clear majority.

Accordingly, I'm far less concerned about a candidate's particular brand of religion than I am about their character and respect for the constitution. I suspect a vast majority of conservatives feel the same. I also suspect the most vocal Mormon haters might actually gin up sympathy votes for Mitt Romney that he would otherwise not get.

30 posted on 06/23/2007 2:53:08 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
>>Mormons are anti-trinitarian. They deny the sufficiency of the Bible alone as the word of God.

You mean like the fact that the word "Trinity" is nowhere found in the Bible. Many early Christians were atni-trinitarian, Justin Martyr, Origen, Hippolytus etc.

>>They believe that Jehovah had many sons in eternity

Hadn't heard that one before. Perhaps you are mixing up the Mormon belief about Elohim (the Father) and Jehova (pre-mortal Jesus in the OT). Sources?

Hugh Hewwit predicted that faltering opponents would resort to lashing out at Romney's faith months ago in his book "A Mormon in the White House: 10 Things Every American Should Know about Mitt Romney ".

46 posted on 06/23/2007 3:39:02 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Anybody in any religion could have their sanity questioned. Religion requires you to believe something impossible so that makes any reloigion strange. You just think that your strange belief is ok and someone elses is not.

I think the Mormons I’ve met are the MOST Christian people I have ever met.

175 posted on 06/23/2007 6:27:07 PM PDT by JAKraig (Joseph Kraig)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

And don’t forget that they believe they will become gods themselves. This Mormon religion is blasphemous to say the least. Sorry to any here that are Mormons, but that’s the way it is. They are NOT a christian faith. They are a cult. They don’t believe that Jesus Christ is our salvation. That alone makes them non-christian. We are saved by Grace not by works. I suppose I will get flamed, but Satan is the leader of this religion. He’s not called the “great deceiver” for nothing.


256 posted on 06/24/2007 11:31:32 AM PDT by Not just another dumb blonde
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