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To: GunRunner
This is a legitimate gripe by Hitchen's. A few Buddhists and Jews marching with some Christians at a pro-life rally was probably done for political expedience rather than an agreement on theology.

Red herring. Of COURSE they don't agree on theology, where was it ever represented that they do? But they do agree on pro-life and such rallies are about that common ground, not about theology.

It doesn't change the fact that even the most loving and generous of my evangelical friends maintain that if you don't believe in Jesus divinity, you are going to Hell.

And therefore what?

They probably also believe that if you keep driving toward a cliff, you'll fall to your death. Would you not want them to warn you about that either? Even if they turned out to be wrong, the fact is they're actually trying to look out for you. But you somehow see it as them giving you the finger. I don't get it.

63 posted on 06/22/2007 12:36:07 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (The Blue and Gray had infinitely more in common than the Blue and Red. We're headed for Civil War.)
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To: Zhangliqun
Red herring. Of COURSE

Jeez, is everything a "red herring" or "straw man" when you ask legitimate questions about faith? Hitchens was pointing to the fact that the same Christians that were marching with Jews and Buddhists also believe those Jews and Buddhists are going to Hell if they don't accept Jesus. Olasky's example proves nothing.

Even if they turned out to be wrong, the fact is they're actually trying to look out for you. But you somehow see it as them giving you the finger.

They're looking out for me by telling me that I have to believe as they do or I'm going to fry in Hell? That's got to be the worst sales pitch I've ever heard. Thanks but no thanks.

I don't get it.

If condemning 3 billion people in Asia to eternal damnation because they haven't converted to your religion makes sense to you, then I'm sure you never will get it.

66 posted on 06/22/2007 12:48:34 PM PDT by GunRunner (Come on Fred, how long are you going to wait?)
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