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An All-Submarine Navy(?)
OpinionEditorials ^ | 6-19-07 | Mike Burleson

Posted on 06/21/2007 7:37:25 AM PDT by SShultz460

Last week, the third in a new class of underwater battleships, the USS MICHIGAN, joined the fleet after a $1 billion face lift. The 4 converted subs of the OHIO class, former Trident missile ships, are the undersea equivalent of the reborn IOWA class from the 1980’s. Armed with over 150 Tomahawk cruise missiles, plus the ability to carry special forces and unmanned vehicles, they give the Navy an incredible ability to strike decisively from the sea.

I am of the opinion that in full-scale shooting war at sea, the US surface navy will be devastated in the first day., by the combination of cruise missiles and stealthy submarines. The survivors would all be forced into port, unable to participate in the counterattack, which would likely be initiated by our own deadly nuclear attack submarines.

What this means is, our current force of colossal and pricey warships including aircraft carriers, cruisers, destroyers, and amphibious ships are obsolete in today’s precision, push button warfare. They are also tremendously expensive to build and operate, with only the richest of earth’s superpowers able to afford them in ever declining numbers. If this wasn’t reason enough for maritime nations to reevaluate their shipbuilding priorities, there are few if any jobs the surface fleet can do which the submarine cannot. I’ll elaborate:

Command of the Sea

Submariners say there are only 2 types of ships: submarines and targets. There’s valid reasons for this. Since World War 2 anti-submarine defenses have failed to match the attack boat’s advancements in speed, stealth, and weaponry. For instance, since 1945 the average speed of destroyers have remained at 30 knots, with only nuclear vessels able to maintain this rate for any period. In contrast, the velocity of nuclear attack submarines, beginning with the launch of USS NAUTILUS in 1954, has tripled and quadrupled from around 10 knots submerged to 30-40 knots.

Also, an antisubmarine vessel must get within a few miles of an enemy sub to fire its rockets or torpedoes. Its only long-range defense, the helicopter, is slow and must linger in a vulnerable hover while its sonar buoys seek out their prey. Some Russian-built boats come equipped with anti-aircraft missiles which makes this standard ASW tactic suicidal.

In contrast, a modern submarine can launch its missiles from 75 miles away and farther. Should it choose to close the distance, as occurred when a Chinese SONG class stalked the USS KITTY HAWK last year, to fire its ship killing torpedoes, it can do so at speeds as fast as and sometimes surpassing surface warships. Whether attacking with cruise missiles or wake-homing torpedoes the attack boat remains submerged; the preeminent stealth vessel.

The sub has likely held this dominate position on the high seas, since the dawn of the first nuke ships beginning in the 1950’s. The only lacking factor has been a full-scale naval war to prove it. The single example is the sinking of the Argentine cruiser BELGRANO 25 years ago by the British submarine HMS CONQUEROR in the Falklands Conflict. Afterward, the Argentine Navy fled to port and remained there!

Commerce Raiding/Protection:

This traditional role of the submarine is one which it excelled in the last century. The difference today is, neither America nor Britain has the capability to mass produce the thousands of anti-submarine escorts which just barely defeated Germany’s U-boats in 2 world wars, even if it would matter. In the next war at sea, the submarine would bring all commerce to a halt, making a mockery of the globalized free market system. The only counter to this menace is perhaps a combination of aircraft and submarine escorts, with the latter acting as the destroyer, shepherding its convoy through the “shark” ridden waters.

Amphibious Assault

Admittedly, this is not a role in which the submarine excels at , with its sparse crew and cargo capacity. Where they do stand out is the ability to land small raiding parties, like the elite Navy SEALs, and underwater demolition teams in preparation for a full-scale assault.

Still, with the submarine maintaining command of the seas, it would allow a surface amphibious task force free reign against an enemy beachhead. Rather than requiring expensive standing amphibs, reserve vessels could be maintained on both our coasts, with a cadre crew ready for any emergency. Some could also be rapidly converted with landing strips for heloes or whatever air assets are needed. Some small and inexpensive littoral ships fitted with cannon could provide escort close to shore.

For standard peacekeeping operations, some large subs could be built or converted for troop carrying, as in the above mentioned MICHIGAN. The ex-ballistic missile warship and her three sisters can load up to 66 SEALs, or more, I imagine, in a pinch, plus their equipment.

Conclusion

If America were to suddenly lose her preeminent surface fleet of carrier groups in such a future conflict, she would still have an excellent and capable submarine force to carry the fight to the enemy. The Navy says it must build 2 boats per year to maintain 50 in commission. Perhaps a doubling or tripling of this number would be necessary to replace the surface ships in the manner I propose. A fleet of 100-150 nuke submarines would be far cheaper to maintain, but also doubtless give the USN an unmatched mastery at sea for the rest of the century.

My blog is at newwars.blogspot.com

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Mike Burleson is a regular columnist with Sea Classics magazine and an advocate of Military Reform. He resides in historic Charleston, SC. http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/honestnews/ http://newwars.blogspot.com/

charbookguy@myway.com


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To: SShultz460

Methinks Mr Burleson just received his dolphins, or is an armchair admiral playing too much “Harpoon”.


62 posted on 06/21/2007 8:50:26 AM PDT by Shellback Chuck
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To: null and void
Are you certain we haven't?

Considering that the Caspian Sea is land-locked then yeah, I feel pretty confident saying that we haven't.

63 posted on 06/21/2007 8:54:13 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: SShultz460
Prior to WWII, there was an influential cadre of military thinkers in virtually all countries, Allied and Axis, who thought air power—and air power alone—would be the determiner, and the fallacy of this thinking continues to this day among various Air Force brass throughout the world in spite of all evidence to the contrary. In WWII, the seemingly unstoppable German U-boat campaigns were successfully countered by improved screening techniques and detection strategies. Why think any future war would be any different? Overemphasis upon any given arm of one’s force array gives the enemy a singular focus for the development of countermeasures.
64 posted on 06/21/2007 8:54:41 AM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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To: SShultz460

It is nice to think of the Korean Peninsula surrounded by some of these undersea battleships. North Korea has enough artillery within range of Seoul that ten of thousands of rounds could fall in an hour if hostilities commenced. Being able to put 150 X 4 cruise missiles into the air quickly could be significant.


65 posted on 06/21/2007 8:56:09 AM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Also, I understand that Russia has supersonic cruise missiles that could be tough to shoot down.

The Russians have had supersonic cruise missiles for decades. U.S. defenses have been designed for them.

66 posted on 06/21/2007 8:57:04 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: denydenydeny
as occurred when a Chinese SONG class stalked the USS KITTY HAWK last year... I stopped reading after this nonsense.

I'd say getting within 5 miles of a carrier constitutes stalking, wouldn't you?

67 posted on 06/21/2007 9:05:43 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: BearCub

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061113-121539-3317r.htm


68 posted on 06/21/2007 9:06:29 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: dakine
Chicks allowed on Subs?

As of July 1st, 2007, Trident are going co-ed. Starting on that date, they'll be putting men on them...

(ducks and hides)
69 posted on 06/21/2007 9:18:49 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: BearCub

My first CO on my first boat had a brass set. When you can read the names of the pilots and RIO’s on the planes landing on the Enterprise, you KNOW you’re close.

TOO close, in fact.


70 posted on 06/21/2007 9:22:03 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: BearCub
I'd say getting within 5 miles of a carrier constitutes stalking, wouldn't you?

It's a question of intent. If I were a Chinese sub skipper who had stalked a U.S. carrier then the last thing I would do would be surface within site of the target and advertise my capabilities. I truly think that there is every likelyhood that Chinese skipper had no clue he was as close as he was.

71 posted on 06/21/2007 9:34:11 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: BearCub
I'd say getting within 5 miles of a carrier constitutes stalking, wouldn't you?

You (and the author) assume that the USN was caught flatfooted by the bold, daring gesture of the gallant PLN, to which I call bull****.

Calling it "stalking" is on the order of saying that mice "stalk" snakes. Look, the mouse walks right up next to the snake! What a daring gesture by the mouse!

72 posted on 06/21/2007 10:08:14 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: spanalot

What submariners don’t say is that submarines are targets.


73 posted on 06/21/2007 10:11:33 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: SShultz460
Let me know when you can stuff an MEU into a submarine.

L

74 posted on 06/21/2007 10:13:39 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: SShultz460

Interesting. But it overlooks the modern long range patrol ASW aircraft. Those type of systems we CAN mass produce.


75 posted on 06/21/2007 10:16:22 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: SShultz460
I’m proud to have USS Michigan aboard. 150 Tomahawks is great but that’s not a substitute for aircraft. The Michigan cannot project power like an aircraft carrier and it’s battle group.

Carrier battle groups are not as vulnerable as the author would have you believe. A tremendously think defensive layer exists. Ideally, the best defense is a good offense.

Offensively, the US Navy trains to eliminate threats before they can be implemented. The Iraqi Air Force is a good example.

Defensively, there have been significant improvements in ECM, radar, and weapon systems used to counter cruise missiles. Even highly maneuverable, fast ASCM’s can now be defeated. But once more, the best defense is to destroy the launching platform.

By the way, what foreign navy is prepared to get into an all out shooting match with the US Navy? Russians? Not even close. Chinese? No, but maybe some day, and we’d better prepare for it.

The Falklands War? A vintage WWII Argentine cruiser was a sitting duck, all by itself, with no ASW assets. True, submarines have some distinct advantages against surface combatants, but a determined, well trained ASW group can make a submariner’s life miserable, even short.

As far as submarines forcing surface ships into port once the shooting starts...Ask the German worlfpacks in the Atlantic during WWI about that. Yes, submarine technology is far better now, but so is surface ship technology.

Our surface forces are vital. Submarines are not and never will be a substitute for surface forces. The truth is, both are crucial and the US Navy functions as one, gaining synergies from both.

76 posted on 06/21/2007 10:21:09 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: denydenydeny
I agree.

The Chinese sub may have gotten close to Kittyhawk, but given her peacetime posture, it was not overly surprising.

Doing the same during war is different.

77 posted on 06/21/2007 10:30:23 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: Non-Sequitur
That is good to know. I don’t think the USA has a cruise missile that is supersonic (Tomahawk is not), unless you include some of the smaller missiles. What are the Russian cruise missiles similar to in our military inventory?
78 posted on 06/21/2007 10:34:20 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: ken5050; Non-Sequitur

I hope not.


79 posted on 06/21/2007 10:36:01 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Non-Sequitur
“I truly think that there is every likelyhood that Chinese skipper had no clue he was as close as he was.”

No doubt.

There was absolutely NO reason for the Chinese skipper to knowingly show himself. By doing so, he compromised whatever tactical and technical prowess they obtained.

It’s not Chinese culture to broadcast their capabilities. They consider patience and time to be on their side.

80 posted on 06/21/2007 10:40:47 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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