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China: Modern-day slaves are beaten and buried alive as police look the other way
Asia News ^ | June 15, 2007

Posted on 06/15/2007 11:38:56 AM PDT by NYer

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To: jedward

whenever want = whenever they want


41 posted on 06/15/2007 1:13:25 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: NYer
China is a communist state, which means everyone in it (but the ruling elite) are slaves.
42 posted on 06/15/2007 1:22:09 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: mjolnir
However, I fail to see how erecting broad trade barriers that don’t distinguish between those producers that violate elevate workers in China and those which repress them aids Chinese citizens

You are claiming a distinction which does not exist. The Communist party controls ALL labor and wage functions in their country. Even for example, at General Electrics' R&D Center in Shanghai...where the employees are primarily professional scientists and technicians. Maybe they get treated better...but we ...and the workers...know who is really calling the shots. It's right in their rules. The foreign firms are immediately surrendering a half interest of their entire investment in China...to their agents. This pointedly gives them an easy basis for re-nationalization when they are ready to openly declare they never quit being communist monsters.

As noted in this thread...they refuse to let even a tiny bit of freedom in. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not very conversant with reality on the ground. Try walking around with a Bible in mainland China. If you want to deal with the entire system, you must go after the Chicom party itself...and use the main blunderbuss which will take it down...deprive them of their labor price advantage. Defund the Communists.

And the simplest, most eminently affordable way to do that without it appearing to be an "attack" on China is by uniformly switching America back to Hamiltonian/Traditional Republican governmental funding mechanisms. [For "national debt reasons"] Eliminate all the income taxes, capital gains taxes (repealing the 16th Amendment) and go with Revenue tariffs. With only a few true allies conferred trade tariff-free reciprocity. China's whole pin-point attack on our economic weakness...the hubris of the doctrinnaire elites....who can be peeled off to echo China Foreign policy...will be confounded.

43 posted on 06/15/2007 1:28:19 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: NYer

I’m sure the reason we haven’t heard from the Rubberbands Jesse and Al are because they are on there way there right now to stop the horrible tragedy!


44 posted on 06/15/2007 1:28:43 PM PDT by Ignatz (Did you know that before the internal combustion engine, there was no weather at all?)
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To: pissant

BUMP!


45 posted on 06/15/2007 1:29:36 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: NYer

I wonder how they would treat us if they could ever take over.


46 posted on 06/15/2007 1:31:49 PM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: pissant

You’re right, and I would go even further-— South Africa was more than a nominal ally-— it was a very solid ally, whereas China is anything but.

My point was simply that the arguments the AFL-CIO make based upon the welfare of the Chinese worker are disingenuous.

Trade sanctions such as Duncan Hunter and Frank Gaffney support, based to the the extent that they are upon American national security considerations, address a different, and as you say, more immediate set of concerns.


47 posted on 06/15/2007 1:34:35 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; ...

But...but...the Cato Institute says we benefit so much from their cheap goods and that they’re not all bad people! Why must we antagonize them with tariffs? /s

PING!


48 posted on 06/15/2007 1:39:19 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: NYer

The predictable outcome of “free trade” ....

The United States has absolutely squandered all moral authority with its trade policies of the last 20 years.

It is infathonable that such a nation is grated wide open access to our markets.

But hey, as long as the stock market goes the right way, who gives a hell.

Shameful and disgusting.


49 posted on 06/15/2007 1:42:28 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
We must also turn our people and import more slaves to compete against the Chinese. Liberty and freedom are so passe. What are you some kind of communist?

This is not over yet. Bush refuses to give up this easily. It's his stubborn character. As I predicted he would try to resurrect it and call it something else. We have to keep our guard up. We need to keep the pressure up. We have no choice but to fight. The oligarchy wants cheap labor and a destruction of the middle class and the millionaire democrats want votes they can count on. A marriage made in HELL.

STAGE TWO is to go after the people who hire illegals. Start giving them fines and arresting them. Just catch ten or 100 of them on the nightly news. The magnet will dry up and most of the 12 million will go home by themselves.

As an addendum, we should anonymously call the IRS, people working "off the books" means taxes ain't being paid. Make anonymous fliers and hang them around the neighborhood, name names. It's time to embarrass these bustards, whether they give to the GOP or Rats, we don't need them.

CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

50 posted on 06/15/2007 1:44:12 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: mjolnir

You hit the nail on the head.


51 posted on 06/15/2007 1:44:20 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Cacique

Bump!


52 posted on 06/15/2007 1:47:17 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: trisham

China is the very image of Mordor.

It’s a horrible irony being slaves of slaves in a prison within a prison.
How dare they compete with the official Prison Republic of China!

For all anyone knows, their government staged these raids to give the impression that they disapprove of slave labor.


53 posted on 06/15/2007 2:30:57 PM PDT by E-Mat (Made in China = Arms for Tyrants)
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To: NYer

Both India and China have one foot in the developed world and another stuck way below down the drain. China does seem to pursue a very aggressive developmental policy defying basic freedom to her citizenry. India offers a lot of religious and political freedom, but lacks a good developmental policy.


54 posted on 06/15/2007 3:27:02 PM PDT by design engineer
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To: ßuddaßudd
Will a story such as this get the MSM exposure as lost whales, runaway brides, sluts going to jail, etc?

It did tonight. Driving home, this was the story on NPR.

Then again, I gave up watching the MSM news 3 years ago. I doubt they will offer the coverage this story deserves. That is why I get my news from the Internet.

55 posted on 06/15/2007 3:35:46 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

I’m glad to hear it got some exposure.


56 posted on 06/15/2007 3:43:27 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: Non-Sequitur; wagglebee
I understand this may be a track and field event in the '08 Olympics.

No ... but you raise an important point.

BAN THE CHINESE OLYMPICS!

Hit them where it hurts!

57 posted on 06/15/2007 3:50:19 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer; mom4kittys; LucyT

Peiping.


60 posted on 06/15/2007 3:59:04 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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