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Penalty Mitigation in the Immigration Reform Bill [White House Spokesman Responds: Post #53]
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| 6-13-2007
| philman_36
Posted on 06/13/2007 6:57:12 AM PDT by philman_36
This morning on Fox and Friends there was made mention that much stricter fines are in the immigration reform bill. While this is true many folks may not know about a few words that follow the language about the tougher fines. Those words make a travesty of any "fines" as they can be waved and the employer could walk away owing nothing in penalties.
Here are the words I've got a problem with...
(D) The Secretary is authorized to reduce or mitigate penalties imposed upon employers, based upon factors including, but not limited to, the employer's hiring volume, compliance history, good-faith implementation of a compliance program, participation in temporary worker program, and voluntary disclosure of violations of this subsection to the Secretary.
So while we're being told that "the penalties are tougher" we aren't being told that under some circumstances employers can face reduced or even no fine whatsoever.
At this point of time in our history America can't afford our officials not being completely truthful to us and not stating that the possibility exists for employers to potentially be let off the hook completely is simply unacceptable.
TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; amnestytroll; beggingforamnesty; blowbackfordubya; deafrino; duncanhunter; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; judicialbypass; nicholasthompson; noamnestyforillegals; nthompsonwhitehouse; sellouts; vampirebill; wontgetfooledagain
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To: nthompsonwhitehouse
The answer is still “no”. Fire Mel Martinez from the RNC as well. He’s not so good at fundraising.
201
posted on
06/14/2007 2:13:51 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
To: All
To: PhilDragoo
ck out 53. White House post.
203
posted on
06/14/2007 2:15:13 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
To: lonevoice
To: Nickname
Thats a great question and one that I would like an answer to.How would the government respond to cities and churches who declare themselves sanctuaries for tax evaders? The same way theyve responded to those declaring themselves sanctuaries to illegal aliens?
Maybe he'll respond. Don't hold your breath though.
Laws either mean something or they dont. Which is it?
Which is it indeed.
To: EternalVigilance
see 53. W sent a WH employee to FR.
206
posted on
06/14/2007 2:18:23 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
To: nthompsonwhitehouse
You signed up today to post that? Set the Defliberation Laser Transmogrifier to Spork-Weasel.
207
posted on
06/14/2007 2:19:30 PM PDT
by
de meanr
(Hunter / Thompson 08 - Fear and Loathing in DC)
To: philman_36; All
208
posted on
06/14/2007 2:21:32 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
To: nthompsonwhitehouse
Tell GWB that I no longer support him and am having second thoughts about his party. Enforce the existing laws now! Build the damned fence as mandated!
Deport illegals now.
Once that is done, I’ll consider a guest worker program and a points based system for immigration.
Oh yeah... Tell GWB that I’m not a racist and I want to do what is in the best interest of my country. In my opinion, he’s the one doing the wrong thing.
209
posted on
06/14/2007 2:21:45 PM PDT
by
Poser
(Willing to fight for oil)
To: theDentist
If you disagree with this administration you are called "the opposition." When I tried to help Terri Schiavo from starvation/dehydration death, I was called an "insurgent."
This White House has no credibility with the base. With kindest regards, I remain... the insurgent, bigoted, opposition.
210
posted on
06/14/2007 2:21:47 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
To: MinorityRepublican
Can you give me some money? I’m having a hard time feeding my kids and paying rent. I actually have to get up 5 and sometimes 6 days a week and go to work for 9 or 10 hours a day and 40% of the money I earn goes to federal, state, and local income taxes. Could you just forward me your paycheck to my bank account? Thanks. I know how much you want to help illegals in this country...could you please help me, an American citizen??..Please?
To: MinorityRepublican
Oh, great. Anyone who replies to this guy will be put on a list. If they want to, they can read any and all of my user posts. I'm a reformed Bushbot with all due respect.
The Bushbots who are left are at A Day in the Life. If this guy needs some support, he can visit that thread.
212
posted on
06/14/2007 2:24:39 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
To: nthompsonwhitehouse
My two Democrat Senators in North Dakota make more sense on Immigration than does the Whitehouse. They want enforcement.
“Doing the jobs Americans won’t do” ignores Econ 101, which would amend that with “at the current price.” In other words, only because of the tremendous supply of illegal labor are wages so low that Americans won’t mow lawns. If the illegals went home, the price of a lawn mowing would go up, and Americans would take the job.
Did Bush fail Econ 101 at Harvard? He seems not to know that an increase in supply (illegal workers) lowers the price (wages).
Duh!
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posted on
06/14/2007 2:25:52 PM PDT
by
Uncle Miltie
(the Prophet said, If (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him. - HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:260])
To: nthompsonwhitehouse
Dear Sir,
With all due respect, comments like,
.
“I’ll see you at the Bill Signing” and
.
“Ted Kennedy is Awesome”, does not help your cause.
214
posted on
06/14/2007 2:27:35 PM PDT
by
PEACE ENFORCER
(The U.S. Constitution has been Reduced to a Meaningless Document.)
To: nthompsonwhitehouse
For your information, Mr. Thompson, I voted for President Bush twice, gave money and support to both his campaigns, worked the telephone to get out the vote, and sill write letters to the editor of our local newspaper in support of the war on teror.
I do not, cannot, and will not support the Prtesident on this shamelful amnesty legislation, and I am sick and tired of his blind support of it. He needs to listen to the people that voted him into office and enforce current immigration law including building the fence.
215
posted on
06/14/2007 2:28:44 PM PDT
by
thelastvirgil
(Lest ye put all your faith in the government to provide for you, check their track record.)
To: MinorityRepublican
” there are few others who agree with me. “
True. Very true.
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posted on
06/14/2007 2:28:59 PM PDT
by
de meanr
(Hunter / Thompson 08 - Fear and Loathing in DC)
To: B4Ranch
This is more like an internal WW 3 !!
217
posted on
06/14/2007 2:29:11 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
To: Czar
The BORDER PATROL HAS A MILLION DOLLAR NASCAR TEAM. Why’s that? I forgot Nick’s screen name. That million would have been a good start for securing the border. Is a coyote driving the NASCAR?????
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posted on
06/14/2007 2:29:24 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
To: nthompsonwhitehouse
Dear Mr. Thompson,
Please tell the President to get tougher on the government of Mexico, regarding their need for economic reform. It is at the root of much of the illegal immigration issues.
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posted on
06/14/2007 2:29:48 PM PDT
by
rfp1234
(Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
To: nthompsonwhitehouse
Nick,
How many miles of the 700 mile fence that the President authorized last year have been built? Was there ever any funding put in place for this fence and if so what happened to it?
How many new border patrol agents have actually been hired in the last 2 years and where exactly is the money for these new hires.
How many businesses hiring illegals have been raided and fined in the last 6 years.
Please tell the President that I worked my b**t off for him during both his campaigns and I regret every minute.
Tell the President that my family and I will no longer support the Republican party in any way if this bill passes.
Why is the President and Senate so hell bent on giving away this great nation.
Since when do we reward illegal activity.
Build the fence, deport illegals, jail employers that hire illegals, then talk to us about immigration reform.
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