Wrong thinking is punishable! Right thinking is quickly rewarded!
Posted on 06/11/2007 2:09:09 PM PDT by Alter Kaker
Slight correction: Radiocarbon dating goes back only about 50,000 years. Other forms of radiometric dating can date things much older.
I whole heartedly agree with you there.
Here is another thing for the Biblical literalist to question. Why did God create the Moon, for that mater why did God create Saturn?
If Genesis is taken as literal fact there seems to be no reason for Creation outside the bubble of general Earth space, after all our universe could indeed be that small, it wouldn't necessarily hurt anything.
Why make Creation so big, of what use is it?
It certainly would not contradict the Bible in any way for it to be smaller, so why did he create it?
These are the things that I think we as Christians need to be asking ourselves, not just the Earthly centric question of why all our geology and fossil records are not explained in explicit detail by a world renowned scientist that God so handily had available at the Dawn of Creation to explain to us in explicit literal detail in the here and now.
And here's another little thought problem for you, who's to say that a scientists with even todays knowledge of the universe wont be called a crackpot 30 years from now by an even greater scientist? So how far ahead in time was God suppose to go to give us a better understanding of exactly what he was doing at Creation.
Maybe, just maybe, he gave us a basic outline in Genesis and expects us to figure out the details with the evidence he left us, we are His creation after all, Created in His image.
Maybe He's telling us' "I gave you that brain, NOW USE IT".
There is a whole lot of universe out there, His Creation, for us all to be just concerned with just this little small corner of it.
“Of course evolution happened.”
Every day that passes, the facts from fossils, molecular biology, genetics, etc. are going against you. Its not faith in God that proves Intelligent Design, its faith in Science.
Thanks!
There by the grace of God, he is the one whom uses me to “speak” so to say (I have been given the “gift of gab” by him) and if I choose to speak through myself alone, I know I would do more harm than good! thanks for your compliment; I just try to tell the truth (and God told me “don’t go past the knowlege you know”..but what I do KNOW I will tell!!
Keep up the “fight-the-good-fight” to those whom do not know the truth yet/:
I don’t believe in a God that purposefully tricks people into doubting Him. I believe in a God that all the Universe glorifies.
You keep bringing up the year the number 4350 years ago which I dont HAVE any idea what it has to do with the world-wide flood:
There is mucho evidence such as the “rock layers”: Fossils have everything to do with a world-wide flood (and I believe it was more along the lines of around 6000years ago).
once again fossils are the fossils of animals drown and rapidly burried under layers of mud, just as when you put mud in cup it stratifies, so did these layers.
all the cultures you talk about are decendents of 1 man’s family, that’s the continuity. Nothing says that todays genetic variation of the middle eastern cultures would be the exact same as say their variant brothers in Europe, Asia, Aust or the Americas.
Didn’t they do a study a couple years ago that found that modern humans midocondrial DNA (that from the mother) all seems to point to a “common ancestor”- aka “Midocrondrial Eve”- Really Noah’s wife.
...and in an unbroken line to the true Eve.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mitochondrial_DNA_haplogroups
“You are right, although I would clarify that Evolution has been used by “Atheists” to attack religion, Darwin certainly never considered what he wrote as an attack on religion (from what I have read) merely an attempt to understand the Almighty’s work.”
Things are usually pretty simple for me. If I disagree with almost everything someone supports then I ask myself why would I support anything they endorse. Sure we can learn from anyone but I don’t believe you can consider these issues in isolation.
Evolution is a tool of those seeking to destroy religion in the US. America was founded by religious people seeking to exercise their religion.
Are genetics real, yes. Did humans evolve from pond scum or a chemical reaction in a rain drop? No, I don’t believe that is possible.
I don’t believe in a God that purposefully tricks people into doubting Him. I believe in a God that all the Universe glorifies.
EXACTLY! We all know whom the Great Deceiver is and he did not create the Universe, that is Gods other true testament to his most loved Creation, what He Himself created for US.
He gave us dominion over all his Creation, does that mean what amounts to one little speck of dust in one small corner of it? After all He created it.
Fantastic red herring.
Please be very careful with this "simplicity". Christianity was used to suppress and attack Jews (Catholicism) and Christianity was also used as a justification for slavery (Protestantism [my father is a Methodist preacher whom told me about the North and South break up of the Church over slavery]).
We do not hold all Christian teachings in contempt over these false interpretations of God's will.
How so?
It seems that only creationists make this charge. Many scientists both support evolution and have faith. For example, Dr. Ken Miller, an expert in the Kitzmiller case, stated in the record that he is a Christian and wants his children to follow the same religion. Is he a hypocrite for also ardently advocating against creationism? No. Believing in Christianity and believing in evolution are independent of each other.
As Henry Ward Beecher demonstrated over a century ago, it’s pretty easy to reconcile science with scripture.
“The GOP had to bring on a lot of poorly educated people in order to advance its war. “
Really??? More than 65% percent of the “leaders” and public bought the intelligence that was presented for the case to go to war! So are we all dumb, or did you make a really dumb statement? Do you need a few names, Clinton(worlds smartest woman), Gore(worlds 2nd smartest man), Kennedy(worlds smartest man,LOL) to name a few from the Dem side! Could go on and on adnauseum, but I type very slowly.
Sarcasm off.
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