Islam is for Uglies.
Posted on 06/08/2007 10:57:15 AM PDT by bedolido
Like most religions, Islam in general, forbids lying. The Quran says, "Truly Allah guides not one who transgresses and lies." Surah 40:28. In the Hadith, Mohammed was also quoted as saying, "Be honest because honesty leads to goodness, and goodness leads to Paradise. Beware of falsehood because it leads to immorality, and immorality leads to Hell."
However, unlike most religions, within Islam there are certain provisions under which lying is not simply tolerated, but actually encouraged. The book "The spirit of Islam," by the Muslim scholar, Afif A. Tabbarah was written to promote Islam. On page 247, Tabbarah stated: "Lying is not always bad, to be sure; there are times when telling a lie is more profitable and better for the general welfare, and for the settlement of conciliation among people, than telling the truth. To this effect, the Prophet says: 'He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good."
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Bukhari:V1B1N3-V6B60N478 "The commencement of divine inspiration to Allah’s Messenger was in the form of dreams that came true like a bright light. The Prophet loved the seclusion of a cave in Hira. The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, 'I do not know how to read.' The Prophet added, 'Then the angel caught me forcefully and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He released me and asked me to read. I replied, "I do not know how to read." Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me till I could not bear it any more. He asked me to read but I replied, "I do not know how to read or what shall I read?" Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, "Read in the name of your Lord who has created man from a clot. Read! Your Lord is the most generous." Then the Apostle returned from that experience; the muscles between his neck and shoulders were trembling, and his heart beating severely. He went to Khadija and cried, 'Cover me! Cover me.' She did until his fear subsided. He said, 'What’s wrong with me? I am afraid that something bad has happened to me.' Khadija replied, 'Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you....'"[This is from the Sira... (The Sira along with the Hadith and Koran form the corpus of Islam's holy texts)]
Ishaq:105 "Aisha said that when Allah desired to honor Muhammad, the first sign of prophethood was a vision in brightness of day shown to him in his sleep. [In other words, he was dreaming.] He liked nothing better than to be alone. When he left Mecca and there was no house in sight, every stone and tree that passed by said, 'Peace be unto you, Allah’s Apostle.' Muhammad would turn around and see naught but trees and stones. [In other words, he was stoned.] He stayed seeing and hearing things as long as it pleased Allah. Then Gabriel came to him with the gift of Allah’s grace [the spiritual beating] while he was on Hira in the month of Ramadhan. The Apostle would pray in seclusion on Hira every year for a month to practice Tahannuth as was the custom of the Quraysh in the heathen days. [In other words, Muhammad was a heathen and the Islamic Pillar requiring Ramadhan fasting was pagan.] Tahannuth is religious devotion [to pagan idols]. After praying in seclusion, he would walk around the Ka'aba seven times. [The centerpiece of the Hajj Pillar is pagan as well.]"
Ishaq:106 "The Prophet set off to Hira with his family. When it was night, Gabriel brought him the command of Allah. 'He came to me,' the Apostle said, 'while I was asleep, with a coverlet of brocade whereon was some writing, and said, 'Read.' I said, 'What shall I read.' He pressed me so tightly that I was near death. Then he let go and said, 'Read!'" This happens twice more, then... "When I thought I was nearly dead I said, 'What shall I read; only to deliver myself from him, lest he should do the same thing to me again. He said, 'Read in the name of your Lord who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Your generous Lord taught by the pen.'" Then the illiterate man said, "So I read it, and he departed from me. I awoke from my sleep. These words were written on my heart."
Ishaq reports: "None of Allah’s creatures was more hateful to me than an ecstatic poet or a man possessed. I thought, 'Woe is me, I'm a possessed poet.'" The worst thing that can befall a man or woman is to be possessed by the devil. He or she loses all sense of decency. To his credit, Muhammad recognized what had happened. To his shame, he damned three billion souls along with his own.
Ishaq:106 "I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself and be at rest." There was no doubt in his mind. During the violent encounter with the spirit in the darkness of that cave, Muhammad had been possessed by the Devil. He wanted to commit suicide - something that Satan could not allow. He had big plans for his prophet.
Ishaq:106 "So I climbed to the mountain to kill myself when I heard a voice saying, 'Muhammad, you are Allah’s Apostle.' I raised my head to see who was speaking and lo, I saw Gabriel in the form of a man with feet astride the horizon." How, pray tell, would our terrified and possessed poet distinguish between Gabriel and Lucifer? And since the first revelation was sinister, that’s a problem.
Bukhari:V9B87N113 "The Prophet said, 'A good dream is from Allah, and a bad dream is from Satan.'"
By his own account, this was a bad dream.
Islam is for Uglies.
I have a friend that just came back from an extended stint in Dubai. I asked him what the downside was...he commented that they lie all the time. There wasn’t any need for it but they lied anyway. He said it is a strange part of the culture.
The fact that one will not find any cry of apostasy concerning Barry Hussein's conversion to Christianity from Islam is sufficient proof Islam's adherents would be sufficiently overjoyed at Barry's winning the US Presidency that they are willing to overlook any act of apostasy by Barry.
Would liberals overlook a murder or murders deserving a death sentence for BJ Clinton if he (through his witch) could merely regain the White House and continue to serve evil liberals' ends? You betcha, and it just shows to go ya that large majorities of liberals and Islamics are happily and actively engaged in lying, public deception, and are without moral compass.
HF
Do you believe lying is always bad?
holden: I read that because Messiah’s turn from Islam came in his boyhood that he was below the age of accountability.
The Muslims do have a perverse sense of justice , but they do have notions of being young to know better.
The view of the God of the Bible on lying:
There are six things which the LORD hates,
Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:
Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
And hands that shed innocent blood,
A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that run rapidly to evil,
A false witness who utters lies,
And one who spreads strife among brothers.
That is from Proverbs. If you want to raise wise children, there are 31 chapters in proverbs- read one every night each month.
“Sawing off the heads of innocent people is not always bad!”
If they're like the Jehovah's Witlesses, they will do a followup. But frankly, I think I'd rather have JW's on my doorstep than diaper-heads from CAIR.
Only Satan would have you believe lying is not always bad
Cinnamon believes that lying is always bad. Is that a true statement?
Oh, please, please, let them come to my home for a followup.
I would simply be ecstatic if they did.
I would love nothing more than having a few mo-lovin', pedophile-worshipping, moon-god cultists show up on my doorstep, with an aim towards converting me to their cult.
Oh, what fun we'd have!
Has God ever lied to us?
I’m not sure.
Now answer my question. The fact that you avoided it is frightening to me. Do you really think it is better to hand over Jews to genocidal maniacs than to lie to save them? If so you seem an awful lot like the Pharisees.
My dad said that a lot when I was growing, and he knows from personal experience, since he lived the first 36 years of his life in the southern Philippines.
You’ve asked the dumbest rhetorical questions I have ever read on FR.
Fuck you. They made a generalization “lying is always bad.” I broke it.
Whoo hoo.. you found an exception to a generalization!! Common Sense must seem like inspiration to you when it rarely visits you.
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