Fed up? Had enough? Remember reading about the Boston Tea Party in our history books?
Instead of tea bundles, how about tossing in our politicians? No use throwing the illegal immigrants in, they can swim as well as Teddy Kennedy.
Last week the unemployment rate figures were released. At 4.5% we have full employment. Any thing under 5 and you are running into the marginal/unemployable. The people who are too sick, to messed up to actually hold down a job. So NO ONE is coming to “take your job”
It is exactly this sort of mindless demagoguery that is keeping a large segment of the the population from joining the Right on this issue. They want something done about the Illegals but they have too many family stories of how their ancestors were subject to this same sort of Nativist ranting when they came here to be comfortable with you all.
Well, apparently more and more Americans want to give up their rights to health care choice. Why not go all out and create an all-out fascist, Marxist, nanny-state.
Maybe they could throw in a provision that makes it hard for companies to fire an employee - works well for France, don’t it?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Will congress have to go thru the same back ground test..maybe it will get some of them in limbo....
My brother makes pretty good money throwing bags on the ramp for Southwest. What will happen to him when these “12 Million” illegals suddenly become legal and announce that they will do my brother’s job for half of what he makes?
You guys just want to be mad. You are not at all intrested in any facts or solutions.
1st you are pissed with the Govt for not punishing Businesses that hire illegals.
Then when the Govt says well we need some way to know who is legal and who is illegal, you are mad at that plan.
Face it, you don’t want any solutions. You just want to be able to bitch
Time to toss the tax code into the drink along with the politicians. We allow politicians to take our money before we even see it (withholding) and then act shocked when they want to spend it (on illegals) in order to vote buy. Want to take away the vote buying power of Congress; stop funding them.
Self-contained “secure ID” is not possible, and anyone trying to sell that concept is either mistaken or lying. Secure ID is only possible by reference to a central database. Currency is not a good example because it is fungible by definition - every dollar is the same as every other dollar, and you almost always have a direct comparison model at hand.
Personal ID is much different, and must meet far different requirements. The easy part is to establish that the person and the ID card match. The old biometric is the drivers license picture, easily manipulated by forgers, or even by teenagers with a decent printer and a cheap laminating kit. And while the more complex biometrics, such as fingerprints, iris scans, or even encrypted DNA profiles might be beyond the teenager, they certainly will not be beyond the forger.
But the real problem is the second one, which is to guarantee that the IDENTITY represented by the card also matches the person. This works both ways - establish that the identity is valid, AND that the person is the true owner of that identity. That CANNOT be absolutely established without the database, but is actually the most critical element - and also, the most disliked and controversial.
If you object to it on principle, then you have no choice but to accept the possibility of false identities. Your constrtuction company might hire an illegal alien, your day care facility might hire a child molester, or your bank might hire an identity thief because the name and birthdate they took from a cemetery headstone came up clean on the background check you ran.
Fake IDs will be on the street within a month of the first real ones. The biometric will have to be retrievable by the employer to be useful, so it will also have to be retrievable by the forger posing as an employer. The identity could come from a friend, a cemetery (as mentioned above) or just the forger’s imagination. A background check will be clean, so how will you detect the falsehood?
However, the database need not be so pervasive that it becomes a real intrusion on ordinary citizens. Database contents need never be sent outside of the host agency, with the exception of immigration or national security purposes. They will need a larger staff, but the database host organization should verify the employment application data sent to it, and respond with only the answer - valid, not valid, or conditional approval pending departure from previous employer.
Multiple employers would require special accommodation, but could be handled. Rejections could be challenged and corrected, but would require the applicant to present himself and his documents to the agency for verification.
A large employer should be able to submit applications via a direct computer link, but a small employer would not need anything more technologically advanced than a cell phone with a camera and text capability.
I am NOT worried about inconveniencing the illegal aliens among us, OR those who deliberately employ them. Yes, it does require that everyone legitimately employable be vetted, but the alternative is to continue to accommodate fraud, identity theft, and continued safe harbor for millions of illegal aliens. Choose one or the other, you cannot have both.
short answer: no
not-so-short answer: do it and you will quickly find yourself on the bad end of thousands of unemployed americans
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Lets see, take a trip over to spp.gov, look who is on committee there. Hmnnn? Could Michael Chertoff’s name appear there?
We can just look at the names. Why really was DHS created? If we are to be secure, one would believe they would be all for closing our borders, I mean the US borders.
Nothing buried in this 1000 page sellout would surprise me.
I don’t seem to recall Heritage Foundation or the immigration hardliners complaining about employee verification when it was included in HR4437, the enforcement only bill authored by Sensenbrenner and passed by the House in Dec 2005.