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Social conservatives bite bullet, back Rudy [his backers pray]
Politico ^ | May 28, 2007 | David Paul Kuhn

Posted on 05/29/2007 6:16:58 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Rudy Giuliani, whose positions on abortion and homosexuality mark him as the most socially liberal Republican presidential candidate in more than a generation, is so far winning the contest for the support of social conservatives, according to a new analysis of recent polls.

Widespread perceptions that Giuliani is the most electable Republican in this year's field are driving his support among social conservatives, according to the analysis by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life.

If the trend holds, this apparent willingness to support a candidate who fails what were once regarded as litmus-test issues would mark a landmark shift in the political behavior of a constituency that has been a pillar of the modern GOP. Already the shift is spurring sharp debate among prominent Christian conservative leaders, some of whom warn that Giuliani backers are abandoning core principles.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; christianvote; elections; giuliani; rudy; second
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To: MamaB

Who do you support?


21 posted on 05/29/2007 6:30:46 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
But he IS running for president -- and he's a big-government globalist who has a pathlogical dislike of rights enshrined in the U.S. Constitution and a well-documented radical left-wing track record on far too many issues.

Other than that, he's a great candidate.

22 posted on 05/29/2007 6:30:53 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

It is hard to believe that the GOP has nearly destroyed itself in a few short years. McCain Feingold was the beginning of the end, then the attempts to out-liberal the Democrats, then we are ready for a liberal Republican in Rudy, but in the end we won’t have to worry because once Bush signs the immigration bill the GOP dies quickly.


24 posted on 05/29/2007 6:31:57 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: wearearepublic; goldstategop; nutmeg; #1CTYankee

Here’s an excerpt at the end of the article worth memorizing:

“The perfect is not the enemy of the good,” he says, arguing that Giuliani is still significantly closer to social conservatives on key issues than leading Democrats. After all, Land adds, social conservatives “understand they are voting for commander in chief, not Baptist in chief.”


25 posted on 05/29/2007 6:33:21 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: airborne

Well, when Rudy first announced I supported him. Then I became educated about his beliefs and boy, that did it for me. This GRITS is not supporting a liberal like him who hates guns, is pro abortion, for immigration, etc. Then I did not know which candidate I would support but when Fred got in the picture, I thought he might be the one. I will just have to wait and see. I know the positions I will never ever support and that is very important.


26 posted on 05/29/2007 6:33:33 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: wearearepublic
Hello,

I am OK with it....

:)

MOgirl

27 posted on 05/29/2007 6:33:37 PM PDT by MOgirl
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To: Clintonfatigued
"Rudy Giuliani is not running for Pope or National Preacher. It seems that some conservatives don’t understand really that."

Oh really? So I should throw my principals out the window? I'm not a religious man but I know when some stances are just wrong.

Is it just about winning at any cost or backing a candidate who shares your views?

I will not compromise and I will not go quietly into the night.

Rudi is not my choice, period.

28 posted on 05/29/2007 6:35:28 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: wearearepublic
I'm new here, am I allowed to say "Bull Shit" in responce to this Bull Shit?

Not if anyone complains or doesn't respond by quoting you to save it from the moderator's meat ax.

"Bull-shiite" is probably better, but I don't have a problem with the bovine feces comment myself...

29 posted on 05/29/2007 6:35:52 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Not a chance, after witnessing what gwb has done, I will not put up with four more years of seeing what I cae about trampled under foot by any so called “republican”.

Not gonna happen, I would rather vote Ron Paul than Rudy, which means that I hope Fred Runs, or Romney rises.

A little iffy on mitt though, but he isn’t in the “hold my nose” column right now.


30 posted on 05/29/2007 6:36:09 PM PDT by padre35 (GWB choose Amnesty as his hill to die on, not Social Security reform,,that speaks much)
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To: padre35

that’s certainly your right.

By the way, you have a great tagline.


31 posted on 05/29/2007 6:38:15 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The difference between Rudy and Hillary is that Rudy looks better in a dress.


32 posted on 05/29/2007 6:38:35 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Clintonfatigued

Politico: Liberal activism masquerading as journalism.

Nothing new under the sun.


33 posted on 05/29/2007 6:40:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Reds went Green, but the goal remains the same.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Apparently the "social conservatives" selected for this survey are the same people who kept posting here pro-Rudy statements that always began with "WELL, I'M AS PRO-LIFE AS ANYBODY ON EARTH" and then immediately added BUT before explaining that they didn't really mind that Rudy wanted to use their taxes to kill babies since, after all, he could beat Hillary. People like that are beneath contempt; they are Republicans because the Democrats won't have them.
34 posted on 05/29/2007 6:40:52 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Clintonfatigued
"Rudy Giuliani is not running for Pope or National Preacher. It seems that some conservatives don’t understand that."

Rudy Giuliani wants to run for president of the USA - THAT I understand.

The only potential candidates I'd put after Rudy are Ron Paul and McPain.

Otherwise, it's an open field.

35 posted on 05/29/2007 6:41:45 PM PDT by norton
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To: Clintonfatigued

Rudy is a loser. We need a better candidate. Rudy will never make it. He will take important votes from the GOP. Not Rudy


36 posted on 05/29/2007 6:41:52 PM PDT by Dov in Houston
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To: Clintonfatigued

anyone is who not a supporter of the United States Constitution is not someone I will ever vote for!


37 posted on 05/29/2007 6:43:48 PM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(Vote for someone who will seal our borders!))
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To: Clintonfatigued

No, sorry. I would agree, normally, that the perfect is the enemy of the good. But Rudy would not be good.

Less harm would be done allowing Hildabeast to be elected than electing a pro-abortionist on the Republican ticket, giving us two pro-abortion, pro-fetal experimentation, pro-gun-grabbing, pro-assisted-suicide, pro-gay/lesbian parties. That simply cannot be allowed to happen.

It would destroy the party and the conservative coalition.

Now, I don’t wan’t hillary in the White House, which means that I don’t want Rudy nominated. Cut him off before that happens, or it will end in total disaster.


38 posted on 05/29/2007 6:44:06 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Polling, at this point in an election cycle, is not about examining objective reality. It is about the cynical attempt to create it.


39 posted on 05/29/2007 6:44:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Reds went Green, but the goal remains the same.)
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To: MamaB

I thought I was a conservative until I figuired out some of you are out of your minds. I then discovered that I was really a republican who held some (mostly non-social) conservative beliefs.


40 posted on 05/29/2007 6:44:57 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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