Posted on 05/22/2007 9:29:44 AM PDT by SittinYonder
"The Republican Party is falling apart," said one insider to me recently. "The GOP has become the party of neoliberal corporate globalism, not the party of conservatism," said another. Perhaps election 2008 will be the last hurrah. Other than Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter, the GOP presidential candidates are a joke. The rest are all neoliberal, interventionist globalists.
Look how we've derailed..."
Iraq is a huge mistake, a neocon experiment in utopianism, and we are paying the price. Bush's foreign policy is not conservative. It is Wilsonian nation building. The transformation of the Middle East to liberal democracy is Jacobin, not conservative. And it is because of the neocon war machine in the Middle East that we are hated.
If we really want to end terrorism in the U.S., then we should completely disengage from the Middle East. We should (1) completely withdraw from the Middle East, (2) end foreign aid to all Middle Eastern countries, (3) deport all Muslims from the West, and (4) end all immigration from the third world.
Many fail to realize it, but terrorism is more an immigration issue than Middle Eastern issue. If Seung-Hui Ch? had not been allowed to immigrate hither, the Virginia Tech massacre would not have happened. Three of the terrorists recently nabbed in New Jersey (plotting to attack Ft. Dix) were illegal immigrants who entered the U.S. from Mexico. And almost all previous terrorists, including those on Sept. 11, were either legal or illegal third-world immigrants.
As Jean Raspail said in Camp of the Saints, "the greatest piece of conservative fiction ever written," there is a third-world invasion of the West taking place. We are under attack. And we can either make a stand against the third-world hordes, or we can watch the West crumble.
We must address the problem now. We need deportations, attrition, employer sanctions, and all immigration (legal and illegal) to end from the third world.
But many seem not to care. Many politicians and corporations are supporting this invasion. Why? Either for cheap votes or to drive down American wages.
Failure to address this invasion not only is a dereliction of duty, but it is a form of treason. And many of the presidential candidates are guilty of treason? Rudolph Giuliani, John McCain, Sam Brownback, Tommy Thompson, Mike Huckabee - and let's not forget Barack Hussein Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John Edwards. Traitors, ever last one of them.
And then there's free trade, which is destroying our economy and undermining our sovereignty. But the neocons / neoliberals have their heads in the sand, wanting to take free trade to its logical conclusion in some perverse suicide pact.
The Democratic Party, which in the 19th century was the conservative party while the GOP was the left-wing party, betrayed the U.S. decades ago. And now the GOP is going the same globalist route? neoliberal wars, mass immigration to drive down American wages, and suicidal free trade pacts.
Do not stand for this nonsense!
If Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul or Duncan Hunter does not get the GOP nomination, then vote third party. Refuse to support the neocon / neoliberal globalist machine. If the GOP continues down this path, it is doomed anyway and, hopefully, out of the ashes a true conservative party will arise, perhaps the Constitution Party or the America First Party.
Or perhaps a new party will form, hopefully one modeling itself after the British National Party, Front National, or Vlaams Belang - all conservative parties in Europe, and conservative in the true sense of the word: the conservation of Western man. Not the phony neocon nonsense we have in the U.S.
I agree with Hunter on the points you address ... it’s the tariffs I can’t get behind.
I don't disagree with this. And I'd add that we should nuke about half of it when our last people are pulled out....
Just because things look bad for Republicans doesn't mean we're out already. In fact, this might help us with MSM and 'Rats underestimating us in election of '08.
Therefore, I am with you as well.
>Your condescension is noted and rejected.<
LOL! Good for you, rob. :o)
It’s not just the Republicans. As far as I can tell the whole federal government has become dysfunctional including the Supreme Court. Consider the evidence—
1. Congress is actively trying to lose the war.
2. All three branches have joined the global warming cult.
3. Congress and the Prez are opening their arms to 12,000,000 invaders.
4. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are in charge of Congress.
5. Randy Cunningham is in jail and Murtha, Jefferson and Ted Kennedy are not.
6. Ted Kennedy is taken seriously.
7. The federal government is actively attacking the first amendment via campaign reform and regulating broadcast content.
Those people back there are nuts.
Indeed. That's all we need to do and then everyone in the world will just LOVE us. (sarc)
What an idiot. (not sarc)
It may be. It's easy now to say "I'll never vote for a Republican again," but come election time when your choices are third-party loser, R or D, most will probably go with the R regardless of how much it hurts.
That said, the Republican Party for years has wrestled with being a conservative, small gov't party or a Democrat-lite, compassionate conservative party. Right now, the Democrat-lites appear to be winning; and compromise on issues vitally important to conservatives won't help the party to maintain its base.
Our country's history shows that parties come and go, sometimes on a single issue ... the Republicans could be going.
Just use the FR term, Unnngh.
Tariffs are the only tool governments have to protect the nation from unfair predatory trade practices of nations that wish to make us dependent on them. Yea tariffs hurt consumers, but they allow the nation to remain self reliant. Tariff's also protect middle class American workers by preventing unfair competition with low wage nations like communist China.
Some tariffs are necessary, and the case you cite is a good example. But tariffs simply used to reduce imports go too far, and I think Hunter takes them too far.
It's probably my only criticism of Hunter.
please,
my point is simple, voting is an act of affirmation, we can only vote FOR a candidate, one vote in favor of that person.
a vote for a third party candidate can never legally be counted for either of the other two candidates.
I understand your claim and it has been swirling around the bowl since 1989...............it was invalid then and it is invalid now.
clinton was elected because he received the most votes, it’s that simple.
Of course you could look at it another way, bush, and 4 years later dole, were such pathetic candidates they couldn’t even muster a majority in a 3 way race. I even voted for both of them, talk about throwing away your vote!
So, the bottom line is this, a vote for a “third party” or “write in” candidate does NOT increase the vote total of any of the other candidates, republican or democrat.
Well there is no single cure all, with that I agree. Let hope one of our 1 percenters get some BIG MO.
Well there is no single cure all, with that I agree. Let’s hope one of our 1 percenters gets some BIG MO.
Yes. In the Iowa straw poll, Tancredo's at 4% and is in seventh according to numbers that are a week or two old. However, if King comes out in favor of Tancredo - which I think he will do if he comes out in anyone's favor - that will give Tancredo a huge push in Iowa. If he shows well in the August straw poll, Tancredo's chances are greatly enhanced.
Hunter, IMO, is the most "electable" of the 1 percenters, and I'm amazed that he seems to get no traction.
“But I think he’s got a stance that can be argued ... certainly doing away with slavery - the founding goal of the Republican Party - was a progressive effort and the Democrats - on that issue - held a more conservative position.”
I would love to flame this but you make a point. The Civil War essentially ended Federalism and the Republican party is to thank for that. In the years after the civil war, the Republican party was the one of big government and federal intervention, essentially crushing states rights.
If you really want to whittle it down, the effects of slavery is destroying the country. The Republic could not survive with slavery and it could not survive Reconstruction as a true Republic. For the record, it is my opinion Reconstruction ended in the ‘70’s after the civil rights movement.
Where did we as a nation go wrong? We imported slaves. It will be our ruination.
Not to worry, it is very early in the process, so early that smart people like Newt are not even getting in yet. Hunter needs to be in early to get a little face time, Newt doesn't. Newr needs to stay out as long as possible hoping everyone forgets him. LOL.
The word ‘conservative’ is a moving target with you guys, isn’t it? If you didn’t notice, the article sings the praises of—among others—the truly vile British National Party and our newly crowned King of the Fringe, Ron Paul. If Paul and the BNP are conservatives, I’ll eat your tinfoil hat. Seems to me the moonbat MoveOn far left and the wingnut John Bircher remnants and Buchanan acolytes on the far right have looped around and met in some alternate reality where everyone carries around a ‘Loose Change’ DVD and decries the global neocon conspiracy. Far-right and far-left, you are all, it seems, united by paranoia and antisemitism—oh, sorry, I meant ‘anti-Zionism’. There. Is that better? Does that go down easier? Does that make it more palatable?
Loathsome and despicable, all of you, like bugs squirming under a rock. I simply can’t properly convey the contempt I feel for your kind. Fortunately, those sharing your views constitute the barking mad, lunatic fringe, not the mainstream of the Republican Party. So by all means, form your own party, since those who share your views are such an embarrassment to mine. And take Ron Paul with you.
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