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which means they never have to pursue “a pathway to citizenship.”

Good. I'm far less concerned about giving amnesty to those already here than to giving them a pathway to citizenship.

This country would be a far better place if it allowed more people to come here to work legally above board and pay taxes, and fewer people to come here to become citizens after breaking innumerable laws. AND PROVIDED that those who are not citizens do not qualify for the Public Dole in any way except for the cost of a plane ticket back home should they lose their job.

13 posted on 05/17/2007 2:49:39 PM PDT by Andrew Byler
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To: Andrew Byler

>>This country would be a far better place if it allowed more people to come here to work legally above board and pay taxes, and fewer people to come here to become citizens after breaking innumerable laws.<<

“Fewer” people?

This new amnesty really means there are no limits on “immigrants.” Supposing only a fraction of the world’s population will sneak in, do you want an extra billion “immigrants,” mostly uneducated, and untold “sleeper” terrorists who will strike when the time is right?


36 posted on 05/17/2007 2:56:13 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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I agree. There should be no citizenship for these people ever unless they return home and go about it the legal way. I don’t mind them coming here temporarily to work though.


50 posted on 05/17/2007 3:00:30 PM PDT by loreldan (Without coffee I am nothing. Romney supporter for now...)
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To: Andrew Byler
Good. I'm far less concerned about giving amnesty to those already here than to giving them a pathway to citizenship.

I understand your thinking. But there are, perhaps, two things you haven't thought about.

1. Whether they pursue th so-called "pathway to citizenship" is totally up to the illegal alien. The "pathway" is there -- they don't have to follow it, but many of them will. Thus, we open the door to a proven lawbreaker.

2. Those who don't choose the "pathway" are free to stay here as long as they want, along with their immediate families and children. Thereby, we will have imported a large permanent underclass -- with all the financial burdens on society that would entail. Moreover, we will have created a flammable source of civil unrest, with tens of millions of completely unassimilated people. We know how well this plan has worked in France, Germany, etc.

Let the politicians call it what they will, but this is a disastrous bill -- driven by truly venal motives.

79 posted on 05/17/2007 3:16:56 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Andrew Byler
Good. I'm far less concerned about giving amnesty to those already here than to giving them a pathway to citizenship.

Citizenship is really not the issue so much as allowing them to stay and work here despite entering illegally. They will receive SS numbers giving them rights to our entitlement systems, which are on the verge of collapse. They will also be eligbile for other benefits like Medicaid, Earned Income Credits, etc. This is an unmitigated disaster.

AND PROVIDED that those who are not citizens do not qualify for the Public Dole in any way except for the cost of a plane ticket back home should they lose their job.

Sounds good, but that is no going to happen once they start paying into the entitlement programs and federal and state taxes. The Dems and the interest groups like La Raza will expand the benefits even to these "non-citizens" and their children born here will be Americans entitled to every benefit.

116 posted on 05/17/2007 3:38:25 PM PDT by kabar
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which means they never have to pursue “a pathway to citizenship.”

The kids they have here will be citizens (same as it is now).

200 posted on 05/17/2007 7:17:26 PM PDT by FreePoster (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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