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Dobson: No way I'll vote for Rudy - Might not cast ballot at all if faced with 'Hobson's choice'
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 17, 2008

Posted on 05/17/2007 2:32:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Family advocate James Dobson, widely considered an important GOP rainmaker, says he will not vote for former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani under any circumstance in the upcoming presidential elections because of his positions on abortion, domestic partnerships for homosexual couples and other moral issues.

Dobson says today in an exclusive WND column, speaking strictly as a private citizen, "I cannot, and will not, vote for Rudy Giuliani in 2008."

"It is an irrevocable decision," says the founder and chairman of Focus on the Family. "If given a Hobson's – Dobson's? – choice between him and Sens. Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, I will either cast my ballot for an also-ran – or if worse comes to worst – not vote for the first time in my adult life."

Dobson says, "My conscience and my moral convictions will allow me to do nothing else."

"How could Giuliani say with a straight face that he 'hates abortion,' while also seeking public funding for it?" Dobson asks in his commentary. "How can he hate abortion and contribute to Planned Parenthood in 1993, 1994, 1998 and 1999? And how was he able for many years to defend the horrible procedure by which the brains are sucked from the heads of a viable, late-term, un-anesthetized babies? Those beliefs are philosophically and morally incompatible. What kind of man would even try to reconcile them?"

While Dobson does not endorse candidates in his role with Focus on the Family, he told a talk radio host in January he would not back Arizona Sen. John McCain for the Republican nomination.

"Speaking as a private individual, I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances," he said.

In March, Dobson drew criticism after a U.S. News and World Report story said Dobson "appeared to throw cold water on a possible presidential bid by former Sen. Fred Thompson while praising former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who is also weighing a presidential run. …"

Dobson claims the magazine mischaracterized his remarks reported as disparaging of Thompson and the potential presidential candidate's Christian faith.

Reporter Dan Gilgoff quoted Dobson saying of Thompson, "Everyone knows he's conservative and has come out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for, [but] I don't think he's a Christian; at least that's my impression."

A statement by Focus on the Family said Dobson did not mean to disparage Thompson.

"His words weren't intended to represent either an endorsement of former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich or a disparagement of former Sen. Fred Thompson," the statement said.

"Dr. Dobson appreciates Sen. Thompson's solid, pro-family voting record and his position that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided."

Dobson, according to Focus on the Family, was "attempting to highlight that to the best of his knowledge, Sen. Thompson hadn't clearly communicated his religious faith, and many evangelical Christians might find this a barrier to supporting him."

Dobson told Gilgoff he had never met Thompson and wasn't certain that his understanding of the former senator's religious convictions was accurate.

"Unfortunately, these qualifiers weren't reported by Mr. Gilgoff," the group's statement said. "We were, however, pleased to learn from his spokesperson that Sen. Thompson professes to be a believer."

Focus on the Family also clarified that Dobson did not excuse Gingrich's "past moral failures," including an affair that ended his second marriage. Gingrich spoke to Dobson of his family life in an interview on the group's daily radio show.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; dobson; editorial; elections; giuliani; mittmcpaul; prolife; stoprudy2008
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To: trisham

Rudy says he supports justices such as Scalia, Roberts, and Alito.

If you want Janet Reno on the Supreme Court, be my guest, I am not staying home.


41 posted on 05/17/2007 2:51:23 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney-Bolton 2008)
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To: Perdogg

Any conservative candidate will fight for the defense of this country. He will appoint liberals to the Supreme Court. I see what he has done in the past and that is what he will do in the future. We do not need this liberal in the office of President. How can any conservative support someone as liberal as Rudy?


42 posted on 05/17/2007 2:51:48 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I agree that Rudy creates unique problems for republican conservatives. But I have always been annoyed by republicans who sit out the general election. In NJ they almost unelected Whitman, and she lowered taxes, whereas the democrats have totally corrupted the state. She was a horse's rear on abortion, but we are in Hell now with abortion AND higher taxes and corruption.

I say do what you can in the primary, but in the general do not damage yourself, your country and our allies by staying home and casting at least one-half vote for Hilary.

43 posted on 05/17/2007 2:52:52 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams
The argument is this...a White House win for a liberal Republican basically shuts out the Conservative movement from the Republican Party. It tells the GOP leadership that they can continue to drift left and will still remain in power. If this happens I predict that within one or two elections we will have two parties pandering to far-left liberal crowd instead of one. If it means we need to have an election cycle with Democrats in charge to drag the GOP back to conservative principles, then so be it.

Furthermore, with a liberal Republican in the White House conservatives will hardly have enough impetus to launch serious opposition to whatever liberal policies he/she advocates (after all "our guy" won). But with a liberal Democrat in office, especially one as despised as Hillary, the base will be highly motivated to oppose her at every turn.

44 posted on 05/17/2007 2:53:19 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: Jim Robinson

Well Mr. Dobson you were all gung ho for GWB and look what we got. I really don’t care who you vote for. All I know is that Rudy is tough on crime and homeland security. At this point in time, that is all that matters.

We can discuss social issues once we handle the immigration mess and prevent us from getting blown to smithereens by those hard working people who are doing jobs Americans won’t do.

I am voting for Duncan Hunter in the primary and any of the other GOP candidates, except McCain would be better than Hillary.


45 posted on 05/17/2007 2:54:56 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: Perdogg
Unbelievable. If you guys love ma pelosi’s gang now, wait for Hillary and gang.

Seriously. If you loved the Clintons from 1992-2000, and are thrilled with Pelosi as speaker, you are going to pee your pants with Hillary/Bill back for a second 8 years with Dems controlling close to 60 senate seats!

For people to be claiming 18 months out they will be sitting home and not voting is a sign of childish pointless chest thumping.

46 posted on 05/17/2007 2:55:49 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m voting for Hunter regardless.


47 posted on 05/17/2007 2:57:10 PM PDT by pissant
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To: lone star annie

Good for you Lone Star Annie (I like that)

There is a lot support for Duncan Hunter insider FR.

He’s a long shot - but today’s immigration fiasco has to help his cause.


48 posted on 05/17/2007 2:57:17 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: pissant

bttt


49 posted on 05/17/2007 2:57:29 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

An acceptable candidate is still a possibility at this point. NO RUDY

Absolutely NO RUDY. NO MCPAIN EITHER.

If Fred Thompson does grab the tail of the Tiger, I believe we will support his candidacy, but we shall see.


50 posted on 05/17/2007 2:57:43 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Hoboto
Sorry but we must stand up FOR LIFE and a vote for Rudy would be acquieising to the murder of 40+ MILLION babies. Rudy would make us pay our taxes to support it -- NOT NOW - NOT EVER!

I answer to a Higher Authority than any Republican Candidate no matter who becomes the .... '0(whatever) President..

51 posted on 05/17/2007 2:58:50 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Jake The Goose
It makes someone feel so powerful "I won't vote - so there". As if their vote is anthing to anyone except themselves.

The only thing more pointless and worthless than staying home and not voting, is spending the energy to declare your intention to be worthless by typing it online.

52 posted on 05/17/2007 2:59:05 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69; Perdogg
Okay, you guys need to tone down the self-righteousness and at least try to understand the arguments of the “stay at home” crowd. Believe it or not, there ARE good reasons for not allowing a liberal Republican to get into the White House, and they do not all include the “I’m taking my ball and going home” mentality you like to tout.
53 posted on 05/17/2007 2:59:16 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: The Blitherer
Yes this is a nice theory. Reality is the base is not going to stop Hilary Clinton and a democrat Congress. How do you stop the Commander in Chief from abandoning Iraq, when the Dem Congress already wants to?

How do you stop Hilary's US Attorneys from allowing dem corruption to run wild?

How do you stop Hilary from doing all her evil deeds? With a republican Congress?

If conservatives stay home and elect Hilary there isn't going to be aRepublican Congress.

GOP Senate seats are up for grabs 2 to 1. you are going to have a huge dem majority - and Hilary?

54 posted on 05/17/2007 2:59:55 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Perdogg

No one is staying HOME. Just leaving the box for President blank!


55 posted on 05/17/2007 3:02:33 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Jim Robinson

Can we assume you’re collecting names again? Some folks never learn.


56 posted on 05/17/2007 3:02:44 PM PDT by ASA Vet (No more RINOs!)
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To: nmh; taxcontrol; Brucifer; MamaB; Perdogg; Ben Mugged; sdillard
For nmh, taxcontrol,Brucifer, MamaB it is evident you suffer from:

RDS - Rudy Derangement Syndrome, the mirror opposite of leftist/CSPAN Bush Derangement Syndrome. RDS is a childlike disease that does not think life should ever present unpleasant choices. Symptoms include an inability to consider voting for Rudy if his general election opponent is the Marxist Hildebeast.

57 posted on 05/17/2007 3:03:19 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Scotus - Buggering the Constitution since 1937.)
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To: Williams

If Rudy is the nominee, the only thing that will save the USA is a bloody revolution.
My stance on the core issues is right, correct, moral, and decent, I have no reason to back down.
Don’t talk “higher taxes” to me, Dammit, can’t you consider anything above your personal profits?


58 posted on 05/17/2007 3:03:28 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: The Blitherer
I seem to recall the Republican majorities in Congress keeping the brakes on Bill Clinton;they could have done even more if the Pubbies played hardball like the Dems.

If it comes down to it ,I will vote Republican in the Congressional and state races and not choose the lesser of two eveils.

Over a decade ago ,I saw a church sign advising"Of two evils,choose neither".That is still good advice.

59 posted on 05/17/2007 3:03:35 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: HerrBlucher

he looks better in a dress but other than that


Reason enough for me to vote for him!


60 posted on 05/17/2007 3:03:52 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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