Posted on 05/17/2007 2:32:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Family advocate James Dobson, widely considered an important GOP rainmaker, says he will not vote for former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani under any circumstance in the upcoming presidential elections because of his positions on abortion, domestic partnerships for homosexual couples and other moral issues.
Dobson says today in an exclusive WND column, speaking strictly as a private citizen, "I cannot, and will not, vote for Rudy Giuliani in 2008."
"It is an irrevocable decision," says the founder and chairman of Focus on the Family. "If given a Hobson's – Dobson's? – choice between him and Sens. Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, I will either cast my ballot for an also-ran – or if worse comes to worst – not vote for the first time in my adult life."
Dobson says, "My conscience and my moral convictions will allow me to do nothing else."
"How could Giuliani say with a straight face that he 'hates abortion,' while also seeking public funding for it?" Dobson asks in his commentary. "How can he hate abortion and contribute to Planned Parenthood in 1993, 1994, 1998 and 1999? And how was he able for many years to defend the horrible procedure by which the brains are sucked from the heads of a viable, late-term, un-anesthetized babies? Those beliefs are philosophically and morally incompatible. What kind of man would even try to reconcile them?"
While Dobson does not endorse candidates in his role with Focus on the Family, he told a talk radio host in January he would not back Arizona Sen. John McCain for the Republican nomination.
"Speaking as a private individual, I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances," he said.
In March, Dobson drew criticism after a U.S. News and World Report story said Dobson "appeared to throw cold water on a possible presidential bid by former Sen. Fred Thompson while praising former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who is also weighing a presidential run. …"
Dobson claims the magazine mischaracterized his remarks reported as disparaging of Thompson and the potential presidential candidate's Christian faith.
Reporter Dan Gilgoff quoted Dobson saying of Thompson, "Everyone knows he's conservative and has come out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for, [but] I don't think he's a Christian; at least that's my impression."
A statement by Focus on the Family said Dobson did not mean to disparage Thompson.
"His words weren't intended to represent either an endorsement of former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich or a disparagement of former Sen. Fred Thompson," the statement said.
"Dr. Dobson appreciates Sen. Thompson's solid, pro-family voting record and his position that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided."
Dobson, according to Focus on the Family, was "attempting to highlight that to the best of his knowledge, Sen. Thompson hadn't clearly communicated his religious faith, and many evangelical Christians might find this a barrier to supporting him."
Dobson told Gilgoff he had never met Thompson and wasn't certain that his understanding of the former senator's religious convictions was accurate.
"Unfortunately, these qualifiers weren't reported by Mr. Gilgoff," the group's statement said. "We were, however, pleased to learn from his spokesperson that Sen. Thompson professes to be a believer."
Focus on the Family also clarified that Dobson did not excuse Gingrich's "past moral failures," including an affair that ended his second marriage. Gingrich spoke to Dobson of his family life in an interview on the group's daily radio show.
Read where? Here? Maybe the LA Times. How about the NY Times. Nothing is in cement now, and no matter who is nominated, not voting Republican is stupid!
You obviously feel very much. At FR it helps to think.
You deny that Mcain is an open border maggot like the rest of the leadership in the Republican Party?
You deny that Mcain is an enemy of the Constitution when he and Feingold ushered in the biggest assault on the 1st Amendment EVER seen in this country’s history?
He’s in bed with Kennedy and the rest of those flea bitten maggots up to his eyeballs.
Not one, not ONE vote from me for any Liberal anywhere in this country, not state, not federal, not city, not county and I don’t give a rats ass what political party they are in.
The Republican Party has lied to us for the last time. It’s now time to put up or shutup. They have decided to ram another amnesty bill down our throats today.
For that the entire lot can kiss my rebel rear end. I’ll find someone else to vote for come election day and that individual will be Duncan Hunter. He’s going to be on my ballot whether he’s there as the Republican Nominee or not, but I flat will not vote for Guiliani, Mcain or any other flaming liberal maggot.
“not voting Republican is stupid!”
No voting for a liberal regardless of party is stupid.
I definitely agree with you on that! Like I said, there are many considerations when deciding whether or not to vote (if it comes to it) for Rudy or to sit out or vote third party. The damage that can be done by a Democrat in 4 years is most definitely something that must be weighed.
I guess I'm just trying to show that there IS a logic behind a decision to sit out the election. It's not just a bunch of people getting all pouty because their guy wasn't nominated. Sacrifices are required for either decision, and people are trying to do what they think is best for the country, in the short run AND the long run.
I have been thinking and that is why I will never support Rudy the liberal. He is not the person for the office of President. I probably read more in one month than you do all year and that is what needs to be done before voting. I find out information about each candidate and then make up my mind. I was for Rudy until I became educated about him. There is no way I will vote for that guy. What did he do after 9-11 that made him qualified to be the leader of the world? This area had 2 terrible tornadoes within the last 25 years. The mayors did their jobs like we voted them into office to do. That did not make either of them qualified for President. I feel sorry for anyone like you.
“If Rudy gets in, that will make a moderate Justice possible. If Fred Thompson gets in, that will make a moderate Justice possible.”
blah blah blah blah.
and if a frog had wings his arse wouldn’t hit the ground when he hopped.
Rudy is a non starter. You republican at any costers had better start working to get rid of that jackass or you’re going to find yourselves sitting back wondering what happened in 2008.
Thompson I can support
Hunter I will support
Other than that the field is pretty slim and there are alot of people that feel the same way I do. This is not about democrats v republicans, this is about Liberals v Conservatives and if the republican party wants to put out dimlite as it’s choice, then they will win or lose that election without my help or the help of a vast majority of people on this forum.
Agreed.
I’m getting frustrated with the stay at home in Rudy v Hillary scenario. Bottom line: I want someone who will protect the integrity and respect of my fellow soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. I can’t believe people would let Hillary into the WH. What would happen to our troops? Don’t get me wrong, I’m pro-life, pro-gun, anti-amnesty, but most importantly to me, pro-kick the Islamo-Nazi Facist terrorists ass back to Hell where they belong. We survived 4 years of Carter, I think it would be a mistake to assume we could survive 4 years of Hillary.
He'd still have to get elected. And if, 18 months from now, the only distinguishhing feature of the Republican candidate is that he will continue the war, even Dennis Kucinich could take evey state against him.
Yes, that is what the dear leader and her minions are counting on. When that day comes, I hope you realize what we are in for, but by then it will be too late.......please understand the consequences. Our constant in-fighting and griping, will elect the dear leader.
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Rudy "says" a lot of things. I don't trust him one bit.
BTW, I don't intend to stay home, either.
Finally!!!!!! The primary is the place to make the selection, but if the 2008 goes Hitlery, it will be the downfall of the Country. That woman is sick and that goes for all the other Democrats in their primary. At least any Republican would make a better chance. Losing the House, Senate, and Presidency will be total destruction to the Constitution, rule of law, and everything else this great Country stood for.
The silly little lesson that the GOP needs to learn is that if they will put up a conservative, a true conservative, then the base will turn out and support them. However, if the GOP puts up left leaning candidates and RINO’s who are more worried about how to split hairs to get the maximum amount of independent voters ... instead of putting up principled conservative candidates ... then they will lose the base and will lose election after election after election.
“If the ‘08 election is a choice between Rudy and some Democrat, my conscience will not allow me to vote in the Presidential election.”
Intending no offense, I beg to differ, Sir or Madam. Your use of language is incorrect. The correct way to say this is, “If the ‘08 election is a choice between Rudy and some OTHER DemocRat...”
Yes, you are correct. Why should we have to chose between two liberals?
LOL
Had to read you message a couple of times before I got your point.
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