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Gonzales proposes new crime: "Attempted" copyright infringement
CNet News Blog ^ | May 15, 2007 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 05/15/2007 9:23:37 AM PDT by dayglored

Gonzales proposes new crime: "Attempted" copyright infringement

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is pressing the U.S. Congress to enact a sweeping intellectual property bill that would increase criminal penalties for copyright infringement, including "attempts" to commit piracy.

"To meet the global challenges of IP crime, our criminal laws must be kept updated," Gonzales said during a speech before the U.S. Chamber of Commerce in Washington on Monday.

The Bush administration is throwing its support behind a proposal called the Intellectual Property Protection Act of 2007, which is likely to receive the enthusiastic support of the movie and music industries and would represent the most dramatic rewrite of copyright law since a 2005 measure dealing with pre-release piracy.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: copyright; fascism; ippa; piracy; riaa
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To: jpsb

Ohh, careful! You’ll get his statist, driving-is-a-privelige, all-laws-MUST-be-right-because they’re-laws, undies in a twist.


141 posted on 05/15/2007 11:47:21 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: longtermmemmory

Did Bill Gates get elected president while I wasn’t looking?


142 posted on 05/15/2007 11:49:28 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: dayglored

Isn’t it about time to step up the “swift boating” on this prick?


143 posted on 05/15/2007 11:49:31 AM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: bamahead

Policeman’s job is easy in a police state.


144 posted on 05/15/2007 11:50:55 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: dayglored
The Bush administration is throwing its support behind a proposal called the Intellectual Property Protection Act of 2007,

This is ten times worse than the Nixon administration inventing the EPA and OSHA. Soon we will be required to wear blinders so as not to offend anyone else.

145 posted on 05/15/2007 11:51:55 AM PDT by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Except that in a police state, police are hated, viewed as enemies rather than protectors, and is as likely to have someone sneak up behind him and slit his throat as he is to be the recipient of a free donut from a grateful citizen.


146 posted on 05/15/2007 11:52:48 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: bamahead

There’s so much legacy software available that there won’t be enough jails to hold us all. Guess we’ll have to have our FOREHEADS tattooed with numbers or bar codes just to keep it all organized.


147 posted on 05/15/2007 11:53:46 AM PDT by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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To: ThePythonicCow
And is anyone else as superficial as me and even further outraged that it is a douche who looks like this...

...advocating all of this crap?

148 posted on 05/15/2007 11:54:21 AM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: jmc813

You mean cause he’s Mexican or because he looks like a dork? If you’re objecting to his dorkiness, I’m with you 100%. If cause he’s Mexican, you’re on your own.


149 posted on 05/15/2007 11:56:51 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Nevermore
Obama and Hitlery are taking bids for services to be rendered when they have defacto plenipotentiary power to penalize everything everywhere.

This story is a trail balloon to see who salites and who gets scared and cries.

150 posted on 05/15/2007 11:57:45 AM PDT by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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To: Still Thinking
You mean cause he’s Mexican or because he looks like a dork?

Because he looks like a total dork who would have been the type of kid in school to remind the teacher that she didn't assign homework over the weekend. I can care less what the dope's nationality is.

151 posted on 05/15/2007 11:59:15 AM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

If you criminalize everything and bar code the offenders, only free-range Canadians and Mexicans will have lives worth living.


152 posted on 05/15/2007 12:00:14 PM PDT by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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To: dayglored
Criminalize "attempting" to infringe copyright. Federal law currently punishes not-for-profit copyright infringement with between 1 and 10 years in prison, but there has to be actual infringement that takes place. The IPPA would eliminate that requirement.

How do you "attempt" to infringe on a copyright, without actually infringing on it? Can someone give me an example?

153 posted on 05/15/2007 12:03:54 PM PDT by knuthom
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To: dayglored
This is breathtaking in its scope and obvious un-Constitutionality.

It may be bad legislation, but I'm not sure how it is unconstitutional, since Congress is explicitly granted the power in the Constitution to establish copyrights.

154 posted on 05/15/2007 12:04:45 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: dayglored

Another Lawyer’s dream!


155 posted on 05/15/2007 12:07:32 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: dayglored

IT IS TIME FOR GONZALES TO GO. Its hard to imagine how Bush could push his approval numbers lower but between this and caving to the Man Made Global Warming crowd, I finally have lost confidence. This is a horrible turn of events. We just don’t need anymore division of our base.


156 posted on 05/15/2007 12:11:41 PM PDT by dalight
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To: knuthom
How do you "attempt" to infringe on a copyright, without actually infringing on it? Can someone give me an example?

Failing to copy a CD/DVD due to DRM.

157 posted on 05/15/2007 12:12:46 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: knuthom
> How do you "attempt" to infringe on a copyright, without actually infringing on it? Can someone give me an example?

Go to BestBuy and buy a stack of blank DVDs.

Don't pretend you didn't intend to use them.... and "we" know that you have some copyrighted DVDs at home, because we wiretapped your phone and internet connection, and heard you discussing the high cost of commercial DVDs...

158 posted on 05/15/2007 12:14:53 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Don’t worry, the ‘bots will be here to defend this. “Had we gone after pirated software, 9/11 wouldn’t have happened”


159 posted on 05/15/2007 12:15:10 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: knuthom

ShadowAce’s reply (#157) is correct. Mine was flippant.


160 posted on 05/15/2007 12:16:25 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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