Posted on 05/14/2007 5:43:58 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
RALEIGH -- N.C. lawmakers may join a nationwide push to decide presidential elections by popular vote instead of the Electoral College.
A state Senate committee gave its blessing Monday to a bill in favor of abandoning the Electoral College system.....
So there you go - I am sure the Dems have figured out what states to target and what states will give them this "victory"....and there is much money being pumped into this campaign by who knows what sources.
“The ignorant elected them.”
I do believe this was your statement. If you’re not going to stand behind them, don’t post them.
I come from a different perspective. I think voters are smart and the only reason they vote dem is because we haven’t done our job either getting to them or explaining our positions.
The Constitution allows the States to determine how their electoral votes are decided. If NC decides to award their electoral votes based on the results of the national popular vote, that is thier choice, and it is legal and Constitutional.
The only chance that I’ve seen of this being unconstitutional has to do with the states entering into a pact to agree to do this only when enough other states have enacted the same legislation.
>They might as well just set fire to the US Constitution, they are trashing it all the time. If they get rid of the elec. college, the big cities, which all have strong majority of liberals, will select all future presidents, and the rest of the USA might as well not even vote.<
Right! The Electoral College levels the playing field. It ain’t broke so don’t fix it!
Why are they still called Democrats? They are Communists!
According to their website, only Maryland has passed and signed the bill into law. 1 State has passed it in both houses, but it hasnt been signed yet. 3 other States have passed it in one house. 8 other states have passed it in a committee. 28 have introduced the bill. 6 are drafting the bill and 4 are still searching for sponsors.
I attended the "welcome" party for the Republican attendees.
I saw the Dem "welcome" party for their "friends".
Are you kidding? The Dems had their best silver, tablecloths, extensive buffet. The Repubs had coffee and doughnuts...that you had to track down in their offices.
Are you kidding? IN NC, the DEMS have MUCH MORE MONEY than the Repubs. And this is just one silly little example.
Do you live in a Dem dominated state? If not, Good for you.
Sure there are problems with the Republican leadership - totally agree.
But that seems to be the major problem you are having with all this.
And I agree that the values held by the Republicans traditionally should win over the Hispanic American voters. Yet when it is the Repubs mainly who are being touted as threatening them with deportation, THAT issue matters more than "Republican values". It seems. But I am all for working more with both urban and hispanic people who win more votes for the "right" values.
Still I have been at the polling places when busloads of Hispanic Americans arrive to vote - NONE with voter ID's. There is no way at all to say whether these voters are legal or not. And they usually have a bus driver who tells them how to vote when they get their ballots and carry them to the bus/van where they vote and then return them to the voting station.
>The poorly funded Republican party in NC was unable to defeat them.<
Well, whether it’s the Republican party in NC or the RNC, when they start acting like Consistently Conservative Republicans, maybe they’ll get some funding from us. Not until! You;’d think they’d have learned since 2004.
Hawaii is next to do that.
The issue is they have this movement ongoing in 40 states.
IMHO it is to be opposed. But, as we see here, not everyone here agrees. That's just fine.
What is that all about? National ID card? Another topic for another day.
This bill/law does not divide the state’s EC vote by the same percentage as the popular vote. It awards the entire EC vote to the winner of the popular vote. So in 2004, Bush would have taken all 52 of CA’s vote.
So under this scenario, Maryland, New York, California and Illinois would have happily cast their electors for George Bush in 2004, the winner of the national popular vote?? Unlikely. The states that pass this are essentially giving up their representation in the temporary legislature that is the Electoral College.
Hopefully, the normal, healthy inter-state jealousies will rise again to defeat these measures. Otherwise, we will cease to be a republic of republics and become a democracy with convenient subdivisions known as states.
It’s states rights .... not sure how the federal government will react to that ... we’re a union of states not a country divided into states such as Australia ....
What’s wrong with one person one vote?
“And anyone who lives in a small state should be fighting this movement tooth and nail.”
So your saying someone who lives in a Metroplolitan area should be happy that his vote is not worth as much because voters who live in urban areas need psychological counseling for their feelings of inferiority?
There is nothing wrong it, but that is not how Presidential elections were designed. The Constitution has no provision for individual voting for President of the United States. The President is elected by the electoral college, not by the people. It is the laws in each of the 50 states that has given the presidential vote to the people.
I guess that would be the people of NC then
Must turn in for the night - but will revisit this tomorrow. Would just like to get the word out to NC Voters.
I don't like the fact that the Dems are trying to push this through WITHOUT the benefit of the voting public's knowledge. --BEFORE it happens. Another Stealth Demonrat measure to help them steal elections.
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