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China to buy $4.3B in U.S. technology
businessweek.com ^ | 05/11/07 | MICHAEL LIEDTKE

Posted on 05/12/2007 11:55:10 AM PDT by freedomm2

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To: Lexinom
Anyone traveling in Japan will notice very very few American products except perhaps some bootleg videos. In Japan its the people who won’t buy American products but with China, the people just don’t have the money and the gov’t restricts American products. I look at labels and avoid China and Japan if I can.
21 posted on 05/12/2007 12:50:40 PM PDT by razzle
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To: Lexinom; Abathar

I am sorry but I really have utterly no interest in being economically enslaved to corrupt “American” Union bosses and incompetent business owners by Govt dictate just because a bunch of trailer trash are so economically ignorant they cannot figure out their bad life choices are NOT the fault of some evil foreign, or corporates, entity out to “get them”. Either you accept the burden, and well as the gift of Liberty, or you are nothing but hypocrites. You don’t get to selectively pick and choose which Liberties you embrace and which you will demand everyone give up in a desperate hope for some sort of illusionary “security”.


22 posted on 05/12/2007 12:51:23 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: ex-snook

“Are they buying the plant or the product to clone?”

Product....why pay for the factory?


23 posted on 05/12/2007 12:56:34 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: MNJohnnie
No quarrel with most of that. I am viewing this more pragmatically as a national security concern. With the "purist" approach, we would trade freely with all nations, and just allow the belligerent ones to expand and take over other nations (like our friend Taiwan). After all, it's free market, survival of the fittest etc., right? Is there any point at which we can say "stop!" and stand for our national sovereignty? Or is our free-trade purity ultimately to lead us all to learn Mandarin?

Are you okay with China taking over Taiwan? Are you comfortable with their impact on other major regional trading partners like India?

24 posted on 05/12/2007 1:01:41 PM PDT by Lexinom (http://www.gohunter08.comĀ)
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To: MNJohnnie; All

“trailer trash”

You sound like an elitist, left wing liberal. I suppose those trailers will become even more trashed when enough American working stiffs lose their jobs to illegal immigrants.....like 250,000 American construction jobs.


25 posted on 05/12/2007 1:02:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: RightWhale
...how does one buy technology?

You write a check.

Manufacturing processes are patented. If someone wants to use someone else's patented process legally, they purchase a license to do so. Therefore, they buy technology.

26 posted on 05/12/2007 1:04:02 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: stephenjohnbanker

the truth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM8XLDl_MTw i have a lott of them if anyone would like see more let me


27 posted on 05/12/2007 1:09:15 PM PDT by freedomm2
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To: MNJohnnie

I am sorry but I really have utterly no interest in being economically enslaved to corrupt “American” Union bosses and incompetent business owners by Govt dictate just because a bunch of trailer trash are so economically ignorant they cannot figure out their bad life choices are NOT the fault of some evil foreign, or corporates, entity out to “get them”. Either you accept the burden, and well as the gift of Liberty, or you are nothing but hypocrites. You don’t get to selectively pick and choose which Liberties you embrace and which you will demand everyone give up in a desperate hope for some sort of illusionary “security”.

Ahh, there it is the “Trade good ignoramious, repeat after me Trade with China good, Trade with China good” ubiquity, no matter that the steal military secrets, buy off politicians, and plan on dealing with Taiwan one way or another, if we just buy more stuff, they’ll like us won’t they?


28 posted on 05/12/2007 1:19:56 PM PDT by padre35 (we are surrounded that simplifies things-Chesty Puller)
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To: padre35

Exactly!!


29 posted on 05/12/2007 1:25:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: freedomm2

Bring em on!


30 posted on 05/12/2007 1:26:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: seowulf

Until there is a global patent police, to do this with a customer like China is a laugh. They’ll buy our permission to make 1 widget and then churn out a million of them daring us to do anything about it.


31 posted on 05/12/2007 1:28:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“trailer trash”

You sound like an elitist, left wing liberal. I suppose those trailers will become even more trashed when enough American working stiffs lose their jobs to illegal immigrants.....like 250,000 American construction jobs.

Free trade/Internationalism has as one of it’s core foundations the lowering wages to the maximum possible, whether that is through illegal immigrants reducing wage pressure (and inflation to be fair) or flooding the market with alternative trade deals such as the “Pilot program” that allows Mexican trucking firms to access the US market with no de facto reciprocity into Mexico.

“IF” we could have true “free trade” by allowing US trucks actual access into Mexico without the forseeable loss due to Theft or Mordida, tehn it would be a good deal, eventually it will become a more “fair” deal but only after literally decades have rolled by and Mexico has an interest in preventing theft, bribery, armed robberies etc.


32 posted on 05/12/2007 1:28:33 PM PDT by padre35 (we are surrounded that simplifies things-Chesty Puller)
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To: seowulf

this is how its done Senators who weakened drug bill got millions from
industry, China knows how the games are played,
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-05-10-senators-drug-bill_N.htm


33 posted on 05/12/2007 1:29:10 PM PDT by freedomm2
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To: padre35

Senators who weakened drug bill got millions from
industry
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-05-10-senators-drug-bill_N.htm


34 posted on 05/12/2007 1:29:11 PM PDT by freedomm2
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To: padre35

China knows how the games are played


35 posted on 05/12/2007 1:29:15 PM PDT by freedomm2
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To: freedomm2

A measure that blocked an effort to allow drug importation passed, 49-40. The 49 senators who voted against drug importation received about $5 million from industry executives and political action committees since 2001 — nearly three quarters of the industry donations to current members of the Senate, according to a USA TODAY analysis of data compiled by two non-partisan groups, Center for Responsive Politics and PoliticalMoneyLine.

That is from the USA today article.

Now this is the sort of thing that puts the lie to “free trade” as it is now practiced. If free trade were a fact, then the “Joe Average Trailer Park” should be able to get their prescriptions filled from Canadian Pharmacies, but as we can see, “free trade” doesn’t work that way. It is designed to facilitate Oligarchicies.

One of the basics flaws IMO of the current system is that it presumes that the US is a sort of Hong Kong with things like business licenses and federal employer ID’s and occupancy permits are simple to acquire. That is not the case at all, in NYC for example it can take 45 days to get a simple business license, in Hong Kong, it takes a day if one is gotten at all.


36 posted on 05/12/2007 1:40:37 PM PDT by padre35 (we are surrounded that simplifies things-Chesty Puller)
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To: freedomm2

IIRC< when this nation was founded, there were nop income taxes. There were tariffs though. Worked until 1913. I always tend to mouth the free trade thing cause it seems to make sense, but when I was a child, the USA was a better place. Moms were able to stay home with their kids, and we made the best stuff on the planet. NOW, we have to import everything - including high tech workers. Something is amiss, and China is just one in a long line. I don’t know what the answer is, but maybe a little bit of patriotism among our politicians and corporate leaders wouldn’t hurt. Less govt spending would help too. I can’t stand China, but is it their fault we don’t save?


37 posted on 05/12/2007 1:48:06 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: seowulf; Toddsterpatriot; Mase; 1rudeboy; SAJ
If someone wants to use someone else's patented process legally, they purchase a license to do so. Therefore, they buy technology.

What's missing in this article is the fact that buying patents will increase the capital surplus, while making the current account (aka "trade deficit") even worse. 

The article talks about wanting to "tackle the United States' $232 billion trade deficit with China", but then they turn right around and point to "more U.S. investments", and "computer software".  Don't get me wrong, our helping China crawl it's way up to the twentieth century is going to make us even more wealthy and powerful than ever.  It's just not going to do anything for all that "trade deficit" shtick.

38 posted on 05/12/2007 2:25:18 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Got that exactly right, mate!


39 posted on 05/12/2007 2:51:13 PM PDT by SAJ (debunking myths about markets and prices on FR since 2001)
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To: freedomm2

So the Chi-Coms buy $4.6Billion, reverse engineer it, then masss produce and sell stuff made with that technology back to us at a profit of several times the initial investment... All the while driving the originator(s) of the technology out of business... yep, makes sense to me...


40 posted on 05/12/2007 3:05:19 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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