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To: teldon30
“worldly” ones, expressed the stereotypical belief that Indian men had antiquated views of women.

Yah, Honor Killings, Hel-freakin'-lo.

As for Asian girls, they are cute, I was never into them for the idea that they were submissive, just the opposite...they can pull off an uber-fem tomboy with ease...and regardless of race, that is always cool.

Schwing!

Always made be smile when the fat white guy from church thought he'd pickup a nice compliant asian wife. Divorce on the wing..

Every white girl I met who would only date black guys made me feel bad for the black guys. Those chicks typically had some bad issues.

The only black guy I knew that would only date non-black women was trying to escape the "ATTITUDE". Had an attractive African American girl treated him as a human being she would have found herself a good man in him. Instead, a very happy German girl got him...and two of the finest looking kids I've ever seen.

29 posted on 05/11/2007 10:10:54 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog

Why White Men Prefer Asian Women

The View From A Sushi Bar

There is near me an Asian sushi-beer-and-dinner establishment that I’ll call the Asia Spot. The region is urban, so the clientele is a mix of some of just about everything, but the waitresses are all Asian, principally Japanese, Indonesian, Vietnamese, and Thai.

The Spot is a neighborhood bar. A large after-work crowd, many of them regulars, gather at happy hour. The social dynamics are curious. It would be an exaggeration to say, as someone did, that the black guys come to pick up white women, and the white men come to get away from them – but it would be an exaggeration of an underlying truth. The waitresses are a large part of the Spot’s appeal.

A common subject of conversation among male customers is how very attractive these women are when compared to American women. It is not a thought safe to utter in mixed company. It is a very common thought. American women know it.

Why are the Asians attractive? What, to huge numbers of men, makes almost any Asian more appealing than almost any American? The question is much discussed by men at the Spot. (I should say here that when I say “women,” I mean the majority of women, the mainstream, the center of gravity. Yes, there are exceptions and degrees.)

American women of my acquaintance offer several explanations, all of them wrong. For example, they say that Asian women are sexually easy. No. American women are sexually easy. The waitresses at the Spot are not available. They date, but they cannot be picked up.

Another explanation popular among American women is that men want submissive women, which Asians are believed to be. Again, no. For one thing, submissive people are bland and boring. In any event the waitresses aren’t submissive. Many compete successfully in tough professions. Among Asian waitresses I know I count an electrical engineer who does wide-area networks, and a woman with a masters in biochemistry who, upon finding that research required a Ph.D and didn’t pay, went back to school and became a dentist. Both of these wait tables to help out in the family restaurant.

At the Spot I know a woman waitressing her way through a degree in computer security, a bright Japansese college graduate making a career in the restaurant business, and the manager of the Spot – not a light-weight job. Submissiveness has nothing to do with their attractiveness.

Why, then, are they so very appealing?

To begin with, look at the American women in the Spot. Perhaps a third of them are stylishly dressed. The rest of the gringas run from undistinguished to dumpster-casual: baggy jeans, oversize shirts — often male shirts — with the tails out. They seem to affect a sort of homeless chic, actually to want to look bad, and do it with more than a touch of androgyny. A high proportion are at least somewhat overweight. (So are the men, but that’s another subject.) The Asians, without exception, are sleek, well-groomed, and dressed with an understated sexiness that never pushes trashy.

Further, the Asians are what were once called “ladies,” a thought repellant to feminists but very so refreshing to men. Listen to the American women at neighboring tables, and you will frequently hear phrases like, “He’s a fucking piece of shit.” In what appears to be a determined attempt to be men, they have adopted the mode of discourse of a male locker room and made it their normal language. The Asians, classier, better students of men, do not have foul mouths. They presumably know about body parts and bathroom functions, but do not believe that a woman raises her stature by referring to them constantly in mixed company.

Men at the Spot, I have noticed, instantly understand that cloacal commentqry is not wanted, and don’t engage in it: In the presence of the civilized, men adopt the standards of civilization. Men also tend to think of women as women think of themselves. The Asians, without displaying vanity, clearly think well of themselves. And ought to.

All in all, they give the impression that they do not want to be one of the guys. They want to be one of the girls. Here we come to the core of their appeal. Let me elaborate.

The default position of American women is what men refer to as “the chip,” a veiled truculence, mixed with a not-very-veiled hostility toward men and a shaky sense of sexual identity. The result is a touchiness reminiscent of hungover ferrets. There is a bandsaw edge to them, a watching for any slight so that they can show that they aren’t going to take it. They are poised to lash out in aggressive defense of their manhood.

As best as I can tell, they don’t like being women. Here is the entire problem in five words.

The Asians at the Spot show every indication that they do like being women. They do not seem to have anything to prove. Being happy with what they are allows them to be comfortable with what they are not – men. They are not competing to be what they can’t be with people who can’t be anything else. They don’t have to establish their masculinity because they don’t want it. They do not assume, as American women tend to, that femaleness is a diseased condition to be treated by male clothes, gutter language, and bad temper.

I’ve spent many dozens of hours chatting with the gals at the Spot, and never seen a sign of the chip. For a man, the experience is wonderful beyond description – smart, pretty, classy women, who are women, and are not the enemy. As long as American women carry the chip, the Asian gals will eat them alive in the dating market.

Note that the espousal of hostile obnoxiousness as a guiding philosophy appears to be an almost uniquely American horror. It certainly isn’t requisite to independence oe self-respect. I recently met a quite attractive blonde who, among other things, was smart, a long-haul motorcyclist, a student of the martial arts out of sheer athletic enjoyment of it, and an excellent marksman. She was also heterosexual, feminine, delightful company, and had no trace of “the chip.” I was astonished. How was this possible, I wondered?

She was Canadian.

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43 posted on 05/11/2007 10:44:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Nancy Pelosi: The Babbling Bolshevik Babushka from the City by the Bay.)
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To: Dead Dog

In college I had some black man ask me if I had ever dated a black man and why not, since I was apparently limiting my options. I told him there just was not chemistry. That’s all it was about. It was hilarious when he said he had to go because his girlfriend would be upset that he was talking to a white girl.


46 posted on 05/11/2007 11:07:07 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Dead Dog
The only black guy I knew that would only date non-black women was trying to escape the "ATTITUDE". Had an attractive African American girl treated him as a human being she would have found herself a good man in him.

A (white) friend of mine tried having black girlfriends a couple of times. Not for long. "Big bucket of crazy" was a good description

165 posted on 05/12/2007 9:57:30 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI">Open Season</a> rocks)
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To: Dead Dog

I married a Latina, and even before I met her, I always seemed to do much better with foreign women, regardless of where they were from.

I think a reason for that was because I knew about the world, and could easily talk to them about where they were from, that always impressed them, and that gave me an edge. There’s nothing that makes a better first impression than bringing up something about their country, and having them say in amazement, “How do you know that?!?!”

So if you want to hit it off with foreign chicks, study your history.


213 posted on 05/12/2007 7:26:36 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Dead Dog

AMEN! I don’t mean to sound bigoted, but I make it a rule NEVER to date a black girl or a white girl that prefers to date black guys because of the anti-intellectual attitude.

I would only consider dating another black girl only if she’s educated and cultured. So far, all of those gals were taken by smart, cultured, educated white guys, so I’m stuck having jungle fever for the rest of my life.

I’m not complaining though.


237 posted on 05/13/2007 6:17:04 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (".... We are a nation of Americans. We are DECENDED from legal immigrants"- johnandrhonda)
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To: Dead Dog

My experience is that most Westernized women have more issues than USA Today. I think a lot of men simply want less complicated relationships.


255 posted on 05/13/2007 12:38:45 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (NBC News - the preferred network of assassins and terrorists.)
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