As Number of Police Raids Increase, So Do Questions

New York Times ^ | 5/16/1998 | Michael Cooper

[dashing doofus]

I was searching for this article for a while. This is what life will look like under former prosecutor Rudy Giuliani. No knock raids will expand. Fourth Amendment rights will be obliterated.

Second Amendment will be completely and thoroughly neutered.

Taxpayer funded abortion on demand, of course, will be protected.

Hillarudy must be stopped!

[Grunthor]

If these people owned guns, they would likely still be sponging dead cop off the front porch.

[AxelPaulsenJr]

I hope that Fred Thompson is the Republican nominee for President. But I gotta say, I think this article and your admitting that you had to search for it, goes a bit too far.

[bamahead]

PING!

Life under Rudy = more no-knock raids?

http://www.cato.org/raidmap/

[dashing doofus]

Probably, since this occurred in Rudy’s police state of NYC, they would be arrested since handguns are (for all practical purposes) outlawed in NYC, and long arms need to be stored locked and unloaded.

In NYC, you are supposed to call 911, then wait. That way the police know where to deliver the body bags and where to collect the evidence.

[dashing doofus]

Why? Rudy is busy trying to reinvent history.

[hardworking]

What ever happened to, “Open up in the name of the law!”? What’s the fascination with battering in doors? Policemen must have brothers-in-law employed as carpenters or something.

[AxelPaulsenJr]

Sounds like you are trying to stretch a little bit of your own. No-knock raids and severe gun control existed in New York a long time before Rudy.

[clearlight]

Might have something to do with not giving every potential armed criminal on the premises the chance to train their weapons on the front door!

[dashing doofus]

I never said, nor implied, that Rudy INVENTED the no-knock raid.

But, just for your infomation, prior to becoming mayor, Rudy was a Federal Prosecutor and embraced these raids. He is quoted as stating that (I’m paraphasing before you get out the google search), that freedom means submitting to the authorities. I’m sure someone has the actual quote.

[Labyrinthos]

In NYC, you are supposed to call 911, then wait. That way the police know where to deliver the body bags and where to collect the evidence.

With a murder/violent crime rate that is a fraction of the rate in gun-slinging, Red State Utopias like Jacksonville, Charlotte, Mobile, DFW, Houston, Phoenix, Denver, Tulsa, Orlando, Memphis, Atlanta, and Birmingham, the vast, overwhelming majority of law abiding people in New York City don't need to worry about body bags.

[Redbob]

Dateline “Ew York” - was that a Freudian slip(cover)?

[Niteranger68]

Officers who participate in no-knock raids are asking for trouble. They should realize that being wrong but alive is far better than being right and dead.

[Al Gator]

“Might have something to do with not giving every potential armed criminal on the premises the chance to train their weapons on the front door!”

That’s real flimsy. Drug dealers don’t get into shootouts with cops. They can get a better deal going down, and be back out on the street by breakfast.

Professional dealers usually shoot other dealers.

You forget. The original justification for “no knock” was so the dealers couldn’t “flush” the evidence.

[trisham]

bump

[Calpernia]

I remember this story!

[CholeraJoe]

If these people owned guns, they would likely still be sponging dead cop off the front porch.

So true.

[jim_trent]

The people in the article are just lucky that they did not end up dead like the 94-year old woman in Atlanta. The one they planted drugs on after murdering her.

[dashing doofus]

That couple needed to worry.

[dashing doofus]

Innocent mistake — doofus.