[Labyrinthos]

In NYC, you are supposed to call 911, then wait. That way the police know where to deliver the body bags and where to collect the evidence.

With a murder/violent crime rate that is a fraction of the rate in gun-slinging, Red State Utopias like Jacksonville, Charlotte, Mobile, DFW, Houston, Phoenix, Denver, Tulsa, Orlando, Memphis, Atlanta, and Birmingham, the vast, overwhelming majority of law abiding people in New York City don't need to worry about body bags.

[dashing doofus]

That couple needed to worry.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Factors differ, granted.

Washington and NYC are both bastions of gun control. Crime for the latter did not go down until more policemen were implemented, along with tougher measures.

As a whole, crime is lower in states with less-restrictive gun regulations. You can even see this overseas, where gun control-happy England has higher crime rates than the US, whereas Switzerland - which practically has a gun in every home - has nearly nonexistent rates.

The basic issue is this: considering the historical evidence to the contrary, why should gun control be pursued? Why should our RKBA be infringed?

[Atlas Sneezed]

With a murder/violent crime rate that is a fraction of the rate in gun-slinging, Red State Utopias like Jacksonville, Charlotte, Mobile, DFW, Houston, Phoenix, Denver, Tulsa, Orlando, Memphis, Atlanta, and Birmingham, the vast, overwhelming majority of law abiding people in New York City don’t need to worry about body bags.

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Those ain’t states, they’re cities. And most are pretty liberal in population and leadership. And remarkable for their ethnic makeup. The few that aren’t have most of the crime concentrated in reliably Democrat sectors.

[Clemenza]

I lived in a neighborhood in Miami Dade County where the worst thing that could happen is that your neighbors lab would poop on your lawn. Yet I and many of my neighbors were gun owners and we didn't go around shooting areas.

Most of the crime in Miami happens in a few ghetto areas. The ethnicity and level of education is more of a factor in violent crime than the level of gun ownership.