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Will Britain one day be Muslim?
Daily Mail, UK ^ | 5/4/07 | RD Edwards

Posted on 05/05/2007 7:25:00 AM PDT by voletti

This week has been another terrible one for those of us who want a society in which all races, religions and cultures mix to their mutual advantage and enrichment.

On Tuesday, five men were sentenced to life in prison for plotting to use a huge fertiliser bomb in what would have been the UK's largest mass murder.

Omar Khyam, Waheed Mahmood, Salahuddin Amin, Anthony Garcia and Jawad Akbar - first and second generation immigrants - responded to the tolerance of the British people by trying to kill as many of them as possible.

Is it absurd to hope that the exposure of their evil after a 13-month trial which cost an estimated £50 million has finally provided the wake-up call that this slumbering country so badly needs?

Or will we continue to allow the politically-correct lunatics to stay in charge of what is becoming an asylum?

I'm one of those old-fashioned immigrants to this country who feels passionately grateful, is proudly British (as well as Irish - having been born in Dublin), and believes that immigrants have more duties than rights.

And, further, that one of those is to adjust to British society rather than expecting it to adjust to them.

However, one aspect of contemporary British society which I refuse to adjust to is its weakness in the face of the enemy within.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: americaalone; banislam; britain; diversity; freedom; muhammadsminions; multiculturalism; pc; rop; tolerance; trop; uk
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To: kabar
Good question.

We’ll probably end up buying them as we did from the Russians after we won the cold war.

Unfortunately we didn’t get the entire Russian arsenal. We better not make the same mistake with the Euro bombs.

41 posted on 05/05/2007 8:50:23 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Westbrook
Oh my!! Someone gets it.

I thought all of Americans thought this was just a religion

42 posted on 05/05/2007 8:52:26 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: umgud
“We have the same problem with Latin immigrants”

The super highway from Mexico to Canada will accommodate the movement of millions of Latins to Canada

Alleviating immigration pressure on the US.

43 posted on 05/05/2007 8:54:42 AM PDT by Griddlee
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To: kabar
And Pakistan has a large Islamist faction in its population, so large that parts of the country are “tribal” and mostly outside of government control. Pakistan’s nuclear weapons cache will outlive Musharraf. What an exciting time we’ll have when (not if) Pakistan has an Islamist as head of the government.
44 posted on 05/05/2007 9:10:20 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: voletti

Yes but they wont listen.


45 posted on 05/05/2007 9:21:06 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: voletti

No wonder poll affter poll after poll, Brits dislike America...it is the Islamic ones (and their liberal sympathizers) who are voting...


46 posted on 05/05/2007 9:23:03 AM PDT by citizencon
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To: expatguy

> I thought all of Americans thought this was just a
> religion

Back before the days of political correctness, we learned in school about Mahomet and his treacherous, murdering hoardes.

We learned that Mahomet was a thieving, murdering, plundering pirate subject to what may have been psychotic episodes during which he would mutter dark sayings he said were revealed to him by the Arabic Moon God, Allah.

When he tried to preach his insane ravings on the streets of Mecca, he was chased away to brood in Medina, where, in spite of the deepening of his psychosis, he was able to woo a band of pirates and thieves, by promising them lots of loot and rapacious sex, not only in this life, but in the afterlife, to assist him in overthrowing the rulers of Medina.

After signing a treaty with the Jews of that city in which Mahomet promised them safety if they would capitulate to his lordship, he invented the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya, whereby lying to infidels is condoned by “Allah” if it helps you to get the upper hand in order to destroy the infidels.

Mahomet and his henchmen murdered every last Jew male from age 13 years old and up, with Mahomet himself personally beheading between 600 and 900 of them, depending upon which boast in the Hadiths you wish to believe.

The females were taken as sex slaves, and the sick and aged were slain along with the males.

This is the foundation, the “FUNDAMENTALS”, of the Mahometan Death Cult euphemistically called “Islam” (submission).

People often say that Mahometanism needs a “reformation”, a Martin Luther figure.

They have him.

He is Osama bin Laden and the “reformation” is Wahabbism and radical Shiism.


47 posted on 05/05/2007 9:26:34 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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To: Marechal
"Actually, the British people did not “survive” the Vikings, French, and Germans. In each case, the Vikings, the Normans, and the Saxons/Angles overran, conquered, and remolded England and portions of Scotland. "

New genetic studies indicate that the vast majority of the peoples of the British Isles are still descended from Spanish immigrants 12-16000 years ago. They were conquered and accepted the culture of their new masters but they bred on! If you visit the West Country, practically everyone is short and dark.

The most intriguing part of the study indicates Old English was being spoken on the isles when Julius Caesar invaded!

48 posted on 05/05/2007 9:38:03 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: citizencon

Silly Article. True Muslims may indeed be a sizable majority in the UK and many European Countries going fwd (lets say 25 years - 50 years).

I can tell you 1 Thing if they start allowing TURKEY and Eventually former European Colonies in North Africa in a “Greater Europe” - Well that’s the End of Europe (nice while it lasted).

The Article is a Little Presumptous at Best. Its like saying there are 40 Million (12.5%) Hispanics (Mostly Mexican & A Sizable % are Illegals)... WILL America 1 day form part of a “Greater Mexico” - J*SUS I hope not!!!!

IT ALL comes down to a few things, if the Muslims can get accumalate & get enough wealth/power wealth + unite then maybe Britain COULD (But I think Unlikely), become a “Semi/Full - Muslim State”.

The same thing can be said for the USA, with its Hispanics (Mexicans/Mestizos), yes numerically they are “Inceasing in PARTS of the USA” (as are Mulsims in Europe) - However they like the Muslims, Minimal Power / Little Wealth + A Questionable amount of unity. ALSO note, virtually EVERY Hispanic/Black & Muslim Organisation or Politicial, is backed by the Liberal Establishment (may I note, which are over-whelemingly White). The same can be said to Europe with its Muslims.

This boils down to 1 Main thing. IMMIGRATION in europe + the USA is Completely F*CKED. There is increasingly NO MEANING in immigration anymore in Europe + the USA.

That’s the sad truth of this matter.. Both Europe and the USA are heading towards a Semi-Apartied system, of basically having a Major Underclass!!!!


49 posted on 05/05/2007 9:40:41 AM PDT by RICK77 (The Righteous Right - NOT the Loony Left!!!)
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To: EagleUSA
IMHO, it all traslates back to WEAK, POLITICALLY CORRECT GOVERNMENT

Political correctness is communism ala Joe Stalin.
50 posted on 05/05/2007 9:42:26 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Marechal

here is the link to the article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/05/science/05cnd-brits.html?ex=1330750800&en=b9b6996d54ba5cc6&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

The ultimate irony: we are all Hispanic immigrants!!!


51 posted on 05/05/2007 9:44:27 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: Westbrook
Yep well, the failure of the West to identify Islam as a political ideology as well as a religion continues to cause of pain.

The two are intertwined to the point where the politcial aspects of Islam cannot be fileted away. Muslims will openly tell you that Islam is not just a religion but a "way of life"

What kills us and the root of all of our troubles worldwide can be summed up in one word.

Tolerance

52 posted on 05/05/2007 9:59:56 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Peter Libra
>...the "British" were as far as is known the indigenous people. The people were presumably the Welsh people. They waged war against the Romans and were driven westward. They stood off the Germanic people and then the Norman conquerers. I fervently hope the original mixture of British people can survive, along with the redoubtable Welsh

The Muslims don't have
anything like Welsh witches
working on their side!







53 posted on 05/05/2007 10:03:03 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Basheva
Omar Khyam, Waheed Mahmood, Salahuddin Amin, Anthony Garcia and Jawad Akbar -

I see the commonality with the other four names, but Anthony Garcia.....what's that all about?

54 posted on 05/05/2007 10:12:45 AM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: voletti
a society in which all races, religions and cultures mix to their mutual advantage and enrichment.

If Britain doesn't exist to nuture and defend the ancient British culture and people then there is no reason for it to exist, its boundries become entirely artificial; mass immigration inward is internationalism by another means. The West is doomed as long as its public debaters feel obliged to chant mantras like the one above.

What is important is what's being lost, not what is filling the vacuum. The survivors in Britain would probably be better off under Islam than, say, an African majority. At least there would be some semblance of order and they could always pretend to convert to avoid persecution.

The problem is the acceptance of mass immigration and multi-ethnicity. Birth rates may be a problem but they are entirely separate from the real problem. Talking about birth rates is a way of avoiding the issue of race, it is fear driven political correctness. That the Poles would have had little to fear from the Germans if they had upped their birth rates 'til their population stood at 100 million in 1935 is probably true, but it is not very relevant.

55 posted on 05/05/2007 10:15:39 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: voletti
The conflict in Britain and the rest of Western Europe will come much sooner than demographics suggest, and much before Muslims are a majority

The reason is the fact that Muslims in Europe are net consumers of tax money, due to their being on welfare and dependent on social services

What happens when the British middle class's taxes can no longer support the Muslim underclass?

56 posted on 05/05/2007 10:15:54 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI">Open Season</a> rocks)
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To: voletti

Ping for later.


57 posted on 05/05/2007 10:16:48 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: expatguy
I saw TV coverage of Muslim Brits that included a female comedienne in slacks with a mod haircut. Encouraging.
58 posted on 05/05/2007 10:23:13 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Basheva
Worryingly, all these jihad-mad second generation stoolpiles can merrily hop into a plane and land in the US based on the visa-free entry we’ve granted British nationals....

The scope for abuse is enormous.

59 posted on 05/05/2007 10:25:58 AM PDT by voletti (There's no place, I can be, since I found, serenity.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Dont be fooled. It is an illusion.


60 posted on 05/05/2007 10:49:09 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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