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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #1~ Reagan Library 05/03/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 05/03/2007 3:19:11 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #1 – Reagan Library 05/03/07 - Official Discussion Thread



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To: AliVeritas; All

Who stood out from the pack? * 3927 responses
Sam Brownback
3.3%
Jim Gilmore
2%
Rudy Giuliani
15%
Mike Huckabee
5.9%
Duncan Hunter
2.9%
John McCain
12%
Ron Paul
24%
Mitt Romney
27%
Tom Tancredo
3.3%
Tommy Thompson
4.8%

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18436681/


1,842 posted on 05/03/2007 7:00:44 PM PDT by LFOD777 (In 2006, Washington spent $2.7 Trillion and ran a $248 billion budget deficit.)
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To: All

Jim’s Summary and Wrap-Up

First thought: Who the hell thought Chris Matthews would make a good moderator? I thought he interrupted the candidates too much, got into this bizarre tussle with Huckabee over a comment he gave to George Stephanopolous, basically brought his whole hyper, over-caffeinated Hardball persona, and it just wasn’t the right tone for the debate that introduces so many of the candidates to the public for the first time. The questions from the Politico were a joke, including asking Thompson to name the exact number of casualties in Iraq. Absolute sandbagging; if the Democrats won’t go on Fox, the GOP should tell MSNBC and the Politico to go to hell.

I’ve got big gripes with McCain on some issues, but I think he gave a grade-A performance. Fired up, some good lines, and in command.

Romney had some strong answers, good humor. “Would it be good to have Bill Clinton back living in the White House?” “You have got to be kidding.”

Giuliani is going to get whacked around a lot for his performance tonight. Clearly the format didn’t help him. I said watching him try to explain the difference between Shia and Sunni was as painful as watching Joe Theismann have his leg broken by Lawrence Taylor back in the 1980s. Rudy’s better than this performance; the question will be whether this really hurt him.

Although honest to God, if Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama had been given the same question on differences between Shia and Sunni, I’d bet either of them would have/could have fumbled as badly. Really unfair that he got hit with that one.

Huckabee impressed me, he might be the guy jumping up to the middle tier. Polished, professional – something reassuring about him. I guess he didn’t seem to be straining to appeal to the audience. Like a rookie who doesn’t spike the football when he scores a touchdown, he acts like he’s done it before. (I’m full of football metaphors tonight, must be a draft-day hangover.)

Brownback didn’t impress me. There’s something artificial and hucksterish about him, something that I don’t quite trust. He certainly didn’t seem to overwhelm the audience with details tonight.

Gilmore? Well, he didn’t hurt himself with any of his answers, but I wouldn’t say he shined. I’d put him on the practice squad, to use yet another football analogy. Duncan Hunter is in a similar category. It’s hard to point to any one problem or mistake, but he didn’t really do enough to stand out on a crowded stage.

I had heard before the event that Tommy Thompson might be the breakout candidate, but he seemed rather bland. Not a bad performance, you can see the guy is smart and he made a good governor and cabinet member, but he didn’t really stand out as the leader in the room. As someone once said about Lieberman, he’s a guy you want at the table, but not at the head of the table.

Ron Paul… sigh, yes, thank you for telling us how a libertarian idealist would do it.

Tancredo didn’t froth at the mouth about immigration as much as I expected, but he didn’t do much to demonstrate that he’s more than a single-issue candidate. He couldn’t even be bothered with the organ donation question, and if he thought the question was wasting his time, he should have said so.

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Corner commentary
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1,843 posted on 05/03/2007 7:00:51 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray for Tony Snow, Liz Edwards, cancer patients, their families and support.)
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To: AliVeritas

Right on~~~~


1,844 posted on 05/03/2007 7:01:14 PM PDT by jaycee (Just looking for a tagline)
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To: jwalsh07

I would certainly be voting for Ron Paul before any of the current three front-runners, I assure you of that. I don’t trust any of the Rudy McRomney trio, and I don’t care how many debates make Romney’s tanning booth look like a good investment.


1,845 posted on 05/03/2007 7:01:18 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (A government, for protecting business only...soon falls by its own corruption." Amos Alcott)
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To: jwalsh07

thanks


1,846 posted on 05/03/2007 7:01:26 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (A proud member of the Frederalist society. Gnats don't bother us)
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To: NittanyLion

MSNBC POLL

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18436681/

Who do you think did the best or worst in the following six categories?


1,847 posted on 05/03/2007 7:01:30 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: EternalVigilance
The problem is EV, you leave out what you want to leave out and do not present a truthful picture. Most intellectaully dishonest.

You know darn well with a more Republican legislature than the 85% democratic legislature Mitt had in MASS, he will govern far more conservatively as president in DC.

1,848 posted on 05/03/2007 7:01:38 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Mitt Romney for President '08)
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To: All

Pajamas Media Roundup
http://pajamasmedia.com/


1,849 posted on 05/03/2007 7:01:57 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray for Tony Snow, Liz Edwards, cancer patients, their families and support.)
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To: CheyennePress

I’ll shake on Fred/Mitt


1,850 posted on 05/03/2007 7:01:58 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Sun
Do you know which candidate said we should err on the side of life, when talking about Terri?

Duncan Hunter

1,851 posted on 05/03/2007 7:02:10 PM PDT by United Freeping States
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To: NittanyLion

Personally, I like Hunter’s “Precise targeting of ordinances” or whatever it was, about what the government has done well.


1,852 posted on 05/03/2007 7:02:14 PM PDT by merryweather
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To: Mensius
Think of Fred Thompson, think of John McCain

No. Don't think so.

Funny, Fred Thompson does. Just listen to him.

1,853 posted on 05/03/2007 7:02:14 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: jwalsh07

I also thought Huckabee did well.

1. Romney
2. Huckabee
3. Paul


1,854 posted on 05/03/2007 7:02:15 PM PDT by Michael A. Velli (fight 'em there -- so we don't have to fight 'em here!)
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To: TAdams8591

Greetings TAdams8591:

Here’s hoping Governor Romney is “locked-in.”

Let me add Senator Obama is a polished public speaker too. Obama expertly weaves half-truths into his yarns. His audio book, _Audacity_of_Hope,_ requires eight, hefty-sized barf bags.

Cheers,
OLA


1,855 posted on 05/03/2007 7:02:31 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (Truth was the first casualty in the MSM's war on President Bush.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
This would be fun for EVERYBODY-— if everybody tried to think of the best quote they could from tonight and post them (without looking at a transcript) to see what stuck.

#1 - Senator Brownback: “Stand for life in all circumstances.”
1,856 posted on 05/03/2007 7:02:42 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: AuntB

Done!


1,857 posted on 05/03/2007 7:02:56 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: mylife
The thing about Fred over Mitt is that Mitt comes across as a career politician, selling snake oil...”step right up, 2 for a dollar, it soothes smoothes, turns a sandwich into a banquet, it will fix your back, fix Iraq..your satisfaction is guaranteed”. Fred strikes me as a Statesman

Mitt has spent most of his life in the private sector making lots of money and creating lots of jobs. He's a great real world manager. Fred, and I like him, has had a much longer time in elected posts.
1,858 posted on 05/03/2007 7:03:17 PM PDT by jackieaxe (This one hour pre-flight security screening is brought to you by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia)
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To: All

http://www.redstate.com/stories/archived/gop_presidential_debate_1_open_thread#comment


1,859 posted on 05/03/2007 7:03:24 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray for Tony Snow, Liz Edwards, cancer patients, their families and support.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Be fair, he didn’t swear fealty to NARAL. And NARAL didn’t like him then, and doesn’t like him now.


1,860 posted on 05/03/2007 7:03:26 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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