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Russia cuts fuel supplies to Estonia amid statue row
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Posted on 05/02/2007 6:13:46 PM PDT by kronos77

moscow • Russia halted deliveries of oil products to Estonia yesterday in a move that coincided with protests in Moscow over the Baltic state’s relocation of a Soviet war memorial.

The cut-off was likely to revive Western fears the Kremlin is using its energy might as a political weapon against ex-Soviet neighbours.

Russia’s state rail monopoly said it planned to carry out maintenance on the rail link to Estonia, disrupting supplies.

Coal exporters said Russian railways had also halted exports of steam coal via Estonia for this month, totalling up to 900,000 tonnes, citing a shortage of railway wagons.

They said Russian rail monopoly RzHD told them they must use their own rail wagons, not RzHD’s, but it has not been possible with such short notice to find alternative wagons.

Moscow and Tallinn have been trading barbs since Estonia last week moved a bronze statue of a Red Army soldier—revered in Russia as a symbol of its huge sacrifices in World War Two — from its spot in the centre of the capital.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: energy; estonia; gasputin; kremlin; nashi; neosoviets; oil; putinism; russia
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Russia will NEVER be our ally in the war on Terror. Russia is THE ENEMY in the War on Terror!==

Remember Afganistan-2001? You sound like Russia frastrates you on Iraq matter? It is very simple. Russia supports USA when USA suports Russia.

Russia has proved that it must be destroyed and broken apart just like the Soviet Union was, and that’s exactly what we are going to do to them. You think we can’t? Just watch!==

Soviet Union was hated by majority of Russians and accually it was Russia who broke it up by proclaiming the Declaration of Independence in June12, 1990. But just think a little how you possible want to break up the nation with 90% of gomogenious population? Beleive it is easier to break up United States with her white, nergo, indian and mexican population. Russia is ALL white race, speaks ONE language and predominantly ONE culture. Muslims ar ejust same Russians with some different faith. All foreign people got separated during 1991 split.


121 posted on 05/07/2007 2:02:02 AM PDT by RusIvan (The western MSM zombies the western publics.)
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To: RusIvan
"With one important difference which you conviniently overlooked. Russia SELLS not give for free. And she sells for US dollars. It is capitalism in action."

The Kremlin's repulsive actions are similar to a Russian Mafia bully, blackmailing & shaking down those they believe are cornered & unable to defend themselves.

Those being blackmailed need to unify and counter the bully.

122 posted on 05/07/2007 2:33:22 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: RusIvan

EU won’t allow this, they have caused us a lot of problems with “normal pipe” through Baltic. Digging under the bottom of the sea (bridge over Pl-Nor pipes is illegal) would cause local environment disaster. EU ecologists are very touchy when they hear “oil pipe” and “Baltic” in one sentence.

German-Russian pipe line is supposed cross polish territorial sea or exclusive economic zone, in the both cases Poland may set very high expactations... very costy I’d say.

Pl-Nor pipeline is considered “medium” (pressure is 220 bar’s) it won’t need compressing

Ger-Rus pipeline is considered “big” and it will need compressing... no way Poland will agree to the compressions machinery on it’s land

Ger-Rus pipeline can be placed outside polish,estonian, lithuanian territorial sea or eez but it would look like slalom... what’s more eksterritorial sea has not been cleaned since WW2 and is full of mines, bombs, wrecks not only old but new also, like Swedish ship MS Frinnbirch which sank in 2006


123 posted on 05/07/2007 2:37:09 AM PDT by Verdelet (Zeby Polska byla Polska)
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To: M. Espinola

“With one important difference which you conviniently overlooked. Russia SELLS not give for free. And she sells for US dollars. It is capitalism in action.”
The Kremlin’s repulsive actions are similar to a Russian Mafia bully, blackmailing & shaking down those they believe are cornered & unable to defend themselves.==

You reread it again and tell me HOW the first statement relates another?:) You so russophobic that you just stop thinking clear:). It is your grief not mine:).


124 posted on 05/07/2007 2:50:15 AM PDT by RusIvan (The western MSM zombies the western publics.)
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To: RusIvan
Comrade, you pro-Kremlinites exist in a insulated, state controlled world which one day, shall come crashing down around you.

Heil Putin!

125 posted on 05/07/2007 3:05:15 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola

“If Russia falls down and no one is around to hear it- does it make a sound?” :)


126 posted on 05/07/2007 3:07:58 AM PDT by Verdelet (Zeby Polska byla Polska)
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To: Verdelet
“If Russia falls down and no one is around to hear it- does it make a sound?” :)

This is a trick question :) We know this, when Russians fall down in the snow, due to the daily consumption of gallons of vodka - no hears or cares :

127 posted on 05/07/2007 3:44:13 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: RusIvan

>>But just think a little how you possible want to break up the nation with 90% of gomogenious population<<

BS
Cia factbook says it’s 79,8% not 90%

>>Muslims ar ejust same Russians with some different faith.<<
I’m not in favor of flame wars but IMHO that statement just won no.1 prize for dumbest reply of the week. If Muslims were same as any other people, just with different faith there would be no WoT, you know.
Maybe you are afraid to admit that :
“Russian Orthodox 15-20%, Muslim 10-15%, other Christian 2% (2006 est.)
note: estimates are of practicing worshipers; Russia has large populations of non-practicing believers and non-believers, a legacy of over seven decades of Soviet rule”

10-15%...

>>Russia is ALL white race, speaks ONE language and predominantly ONE culture<<

CIA Factbook again


128 posted on 05/07/2007 4:55:00 AM PDT by Verdelet (Zeby Polska byla Polska)
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To: RusIvan

Soviet Union was basicaly anti-Russian.

Anyway, talking about brake-up of Russia, I have stated earlier that US can be boken ino ethnical regions. in just about 50% of US territory white americans are in majority.
Entire SW of USA is Mexiaca -populated and entire South is with black majority.

So if one wants to brake up-US, he will do it. Sadly. And with Democrates inside US, occupation uf country is allread (self)imposed.

One of problems with foremer USSR countries, is that they want to “Go West” but to suck on Russian oil and gas for allmost free. Well, it aint free. Basic, common political and economical ligic is if you are dependant on other peoples oil and gas, never try to provoke them or act against them. Estonians believed that they can provoke Russia, by cheap oil, coal and gas and that Russia wouldnt react...

Wild ideas about Russia? Hehehehe... maybe, but I still like Russia.


129 posted on 05/07/2007 6:32:56 AM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77

Umm wrong.


130 posted on 05/07/2007 6:40:49 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: kronos77

Estonia Hampers Russian Gas Pipeline Project.

http://www.kommersant.com/p763811/r_500/Estonia_Statue_Soldier_Gas/


131 posted on 05/07/2007 6:58:14 AM PDT by vahet pole
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To: Verdelet

Cia factbook says it’s 79,8% not 90%==

CIA factbook is not always precise:).


132 posted on 05/07/2007 7:12:20 AM PDT by RusIvan (The western MSM zombies the western publics.)
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To: M. Espinola

Comrade, you pro-Kremlinites exist in a insulated, state controlled world which one day, shall come crashing down around you.==

Comrade it is only in your dreams:)).


133 posted on 05/07/2007 7:13:50 AM PDT by RusIvan (The western MSM zombies the western publics.)
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To: kronos77

One of problems with foremer USSR countries, is that they want to “Go West” but to suck on Russian oil and gas for allmost free. ==

Exactly. They all are corrupted by USSR. Now it is over and that why they create lot of noise about “blackmail and intimidation” of Russia. Russia just ask them to pay the market price. Secondly Russia just tell them that those who do dirty trick will be refused to do business with her.


134 posted on 05/07/2007 7:16:45 AM PDT by RusIvan (The western MSM zombies the western publics.)
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To: RusIvan
"Comrade it is only in your dreams:))."

Well Comrade, here's to dreaming! Dreams come true.

135 posted on 05/07/2007 7:25:46 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: kronos77

All monuments to the “Great Patriotic War” should be destroyed and all remains of Russian soldiers returned to Russia. I think that’s a fair trade.


136 posted on 05/07/2007 7:28:32 AM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: M. Espinola

“Comrade it is only in your dreams:)).”
Well Comrade, here’s to dreaming! Dreams come true.==

BE careful what you dream for!:))

Why you denouce “Russian nationalists” but at same time support Estonian natinalists the former soviet communists? I see it as just russoaphobia pure and simple. You are ready to support anyone in the world: communists or else if they are antirussian, right?


137 posted on 05/07/2007 7:40:04 AM PDT by RusIvan (The western MSM zombies the western publics.)
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To: RusIvan

Tell that to the Tatars, Bashkirs, Kalmyks, Chuvash, Mordvinians, Komi, Udmurt, Yakut, Karelians, Adygeans, Mari, Ingush, Cherkess, Chechens, etc., etc. Our motto in the the USA is “From Many, One.” Yours is “Russia for the Russians.” That attitude will make it all the easier to turn your imperial subjects against you. In the near future, Russia will be known as “Muscovy.”


138 posted on 05/07/2007 8:02:42 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: RusIvan
"Why you denouce “Russian nationalists”

You mean trained NASHI storm troopers?

"I see it as just russoaphobia pure and simple."

On here we view the problem as Putinmania from you comrades in Russia.

139 posted on 05/07/2007 8:03:53 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: RusIvan

The Estonian nationalists are our friends and allies while the Russian nationalists despise America and want to destroy us. That’s why.


140 posted on 05/07/2007 8:04:01 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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