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1 posted on 04/26/2007 11:57:26 AM PDT by Uncledave
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Why didn’t some of the students rush Cho?

With paper airplanes and spitballs right?
2 posted on 04/26/2007 11:59:54 AM PDT by kinoxi
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Why didn’t some of the students rush Cho? - Maybe because he had automatic weapons and they did not want to get shot; I am just guessing.
4 posted on 04/26/2007 12:01:50 PM PDT by SF Republican
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Some good points in this article.


5 posted on 04/26/2007 12:02:06 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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They have been conditioned to be good little sheep and rely on the police to save them. Not to mention the fact they were paralyzed trying to figure out how a gun got in a gun free zone.


7 posted on 04/26/2007 12:06:53 PM PDT by conserv8ive1 (Rudy and the Bots...blasting off to oblivion.)
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Hey Smitie, maybe because the “students” have been indoctrinated for years with the notion that big government will protect and should protect us all.

How many times have we seen LEOs telling any who would listen to “just call 911.” Taking matters into one’s own hands has become the height of hubris.


8 posted on 04/26/2007 12:08:01 PM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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Hey Smitie, maybe because the “students” have been indoctrinated for years with the notion that big governnment will protect and should protect us all.

How many times have we seen LEOs telling any who would listen to “just call 911.” Taking matters into one’s own hands has become the height of hubris.


9 posted on 04/26/2007 12:08:23 PM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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This is a creepy post. The author seems to enjoy a little too much phrases like “field of fire” and “tactical variables” and “fire superiority.” It was a college. Let the dead rest in peace and the survivors be left unjudged.


10 posted on 04/26/2007 12:08:52 PM PDT by SoCalRight
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“Thank God, he [Cho] didn’t have guns staged all over the place.”

Thanks for giving the next nutcase copycat that idea


15 posted on 04/26/2007 12:11:54 PM PDT by RDTF (R.I.P. Blue Angel LCDR Kevin Davis)
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How about they were terrified?


16 posted on 04/26/2007 12:12:58 PM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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I have it on good authority from a handful of Freepers in other threads that these students were all cowards or sheep. For some, that appears to be the only explanation possible. Sad.


22 posted on 04/26/2007 12:17:52 PM PDT by gracesdad
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Actually I think it is worth noting the heroics were from older more mature persons. I am thinking of the two professors who blocked doors to let students live.


24 posted on 04/26/2007 12:18:49 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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“It’s easy to Monday-morning quarterback ...”

Agreed. Bravado is cheap (and, therefore, plentiful) when one is twelve days and hundreds of miles removed from the scene.

25 posted on 04/26/2007 12:19:41 PM PDT by riverdawg
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Why didn’t some of the students rush Cho? Why didn’t someone tackle and disarm him?

I still remember how heavy my textbooks were. If everyone had thrown them at Cho he might have been distracted long enough for a bum rush to succeed.

28 posted on 04/26/2007 12:21:49 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (Run, Fred, run!)
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“Why didn’t some of the students rush Cho?”

Aren’t students told to abhor violence? Aren’t we all told to hold hands, give up our guns, love our multiculturalist society and sing, “kumbayah”?


34 posted on 04/26/2007 12:27:00 PM PDT by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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I wonder if Cho would have undertaken this course of action at all.... had the rules of engagement been different (CCW)...

AND....

...If he knew that concealed-carry was (should have been) lawful on this campus --

Had he known that someone was more than likely odds-on to confront him with deadly force - and the willingness to use it in defense -- before this became a massacre...

I s'pect he might have taken a different tack....perhaps reconsidered his course of action....

In the very least the death toll would have been much less...
(The perp would have bceome a statistic much sooner on the timeline....)

JMHO...

35 posted on 04/26/2007 12:28:53 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The answers remain available; Wisdom is obtained by asking all the right questions!)
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Any Todd Beamer types would have rushed him and probably did, just not all at once.

But I judge none of them, if any had a chance to act but didnt their own conscience will judge them enough from now on without me piling on.

My guess is another Cho in the future (God forbid) will not rack up such a count before he is tackled.


42 posted on 04/26/2007 12:43:10 PM PDT by No Blue States
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Why didn’t some of the students rush Cho?

Simple, Cho was armed, and they were disarmed by a PC law which forbids guns on any school or college campus.

Granted, no one wants a bunch of untrained college kids carrying loaded guns around on campus or in classrooms, but Virginia adults with clean records and some basic firearms training can get permits to carry guns almost anywhere in VA EXCEPT on a school or college campus. That law is stupid and worse than useless, because anyone who is mentally unbalanced or angry enough to commit mass murder at a school couldn't care less about breaking a gun law in the process.

No doubt some of those VT students were old enough and mature enough to have CC permits, and practically any of the faculty would probably qualify. But those permits, if any of the faculty or students did have them, were invalid under VA law at the very place and time where they probably could have saved many lives.

44 posted on 04/26/2007 12:44:57 PM PDT by epow
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How sure is anyone that Cho really shot himself, as opposed to, say, someone charging him and in spite of getting drilled, grabbing the gun and shooting Cho just before passing out / expiring?


48 posted on 04/26/2007 12:47:46 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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This is a creepy post. The author seems to enjoy a little too much phrases like “field of fire” and “tactical variables” and “fire superiority.” It was a college. Let the dead rest in peace and the survivors be left unjudged. Creepy? I think unnecessary body count is creepy. For one, there was no was to lock the classroom door, so the other rooms were vulnerable. One room, the French Lab (I'm not kidding) attempted a barricade but Cho got through and killed 9 in that room. If there was anyone armed outside the room he first entered, Cho's threat zone has doubled instantly; reducing his ability to kill. Plus there was a lack of screams as I recall reported. Screams help accelerate reaction. As a minimum, 1) have locks on doors and have emergency exits 2) have at least a faculty accessible arms stash on every floor 3) encourage screams 4) have an alarm system for lockdown. There are so many public places at risk for another of these attacks. C2K
61 posted on 04/26/2007 1:09:13 PM PDT by cicero2k
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When will CHO be issued (posthumously) a summons for bringing a gun into a “GUN FREE” ZONE?


70 posted on 04/26/2007 1:14:00 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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