Symposium to honor Lee, villain or 'the noblest ever' ?

Washington Times ^ | April 25, 2007 | Robert Stacy McCain

[Non-Sequitur]

Winston Churchill called him "one of the noblest Americans who ever lived," and Theodore Roosevelt called him "the very greatest of all the great captains that the English-speaking peoples have brought forth." But has political correctness turned Robert E. Lee into a villain? That will be the question explored by six historians this weekend at a symposium commemorating the bicentennial of the Confederate commander's birth. "We were afraid that Lee would not receive the honors he should get because of the prevailing political correctness," says Brag Bowling, a Richmond resident who helped organize Saturday's event at the Key Bridge Marriott Hotel in Arlington. The symposium will be the largest event of its kind this year honoring Lee, who was born Jan. 19, 1807.

[TexConfederate1861]

Please don’t insult my favorite President, Ronald Reagan, (a CHAMPION OF STATES-RIGHTS) by putting him with those other *%#$@ persons!

[TexConfederate1861]

Stevens was a communist, before the term was invented. And “Birth of a Nation” tells his story well.

[TexConfederate1861]

Wrong, he got his attention first, then beat hell out of him. Which he deserved.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Wrong, he got his attention first, then beat hell out of him. Which he deserved.

Sumner was at his desk in the chamber when Brooks came up to him and said, "Mr. Sumner, I have read your speech twice over carefully. It is a libel on South Carolina, and Mr. Butler, who is a relative of mine." Sumner started to stand up, but Brooks began beating him with the gold-headed cane. Sumner was trapped by the desk, which was bolted to the floor until he tore it out. Several other senators tried to come to Sumner's aid, but Lawrence Keitt pulled a pistol and held them at bay. Sumner fell to the floor unconscious and Brooks continued to beat him until the cane broke. Only then did he turn and walk out of the chamber.

Southern "honor" in action, I suppose. The one good thing that came out of it was to show the north just what kind of people the southerners were and did much to galvanize the new Republican party.

[smug]

I had to find them out for myself by researching what men actually said and did in the 1860s.

That is odd, that is exactly how I learned the same exact opposite facts. Take your Brownlow for instance. He was After the WBTS elected governor (twice) of Tennessee when the voting was tainted. Then (appointed) Senator. However, I G Harris who you chastised, was elected four times to the Senate and to date is the second longest serving senator from Tennessee. To me that says volumes about the sentiment of his peers. they as a whole preferred Harris, oh By the way Brownlow was pro-slavery.

[smug]

Hooray for private education and hooray for the party of Sumner, Stevens, Lincoln and Reagan.

I am surprised that you include Stevens in this group. He was after all the Vice-President of the Confederacy. 8^)

[Ditto]

And “Birth of a Nation” tells his story well.

Are you serious?

[Ditto]

Southern "honor" in action, I suppose. The one good thing that came out of it was to show the north just what kind of people the southerners were...

I wouldn't lay that blanket over "Southerners" any more than I would lay Mullah Omar on the people of Afghanistan.

The South had it's Talaban, and it was the Slave Power who fanatics like Brooks represented. They would do anything for their religion of slavery.

[toddlintown]

“Churchill was right.

And I’m a native of the Land of Lincoln and a Son of Union Veterans, who likes his history pc-free.”

Ain’t that the truth.

[toddlintown]

Nice.

[toddlintown]

Nah, it’s not even worth it.

[TexConfederate1861]

Don’t think for a minute that we are’t STILL capable.
Especially where our rights and liberties are concerned.

[TexConfederate1861]

He means “Thaddeus Stevens”.....

[TexConfederate1861]

A good bit of that movie is propaganda, but the part about him is right on the money.

[Colonel Kangaroo]

That is odd, that is exactly how I learned the same exact opposite facts. Take your Brownlow for instance. He was After the WBTS elected governor (twice) of Tennessee when the voting was tainted. Then (appointed) Senator. However, I G Harris who you chastised, was elected four times to the Senate and to date is the second longest serving senator from Tennessee. To me that says volumes about the sentiment of his peers. they as a whole preferred Harris, oh By the way Brownlow was pro-slavery.

Considering the long history of Democratic terror and voter intimidation in the South, it's not Brownlow's elections that I would consider to be tainted.

And it's a shame that the misplaced generosity of the United States allowed a Democrat like Isham Harris to come back from Mexico and resume his Democratic/Confederate political life's work of keeping black people securely under the thumb of white Democrats.

And Brownlow was certainly pro-slavery before the war. But unlike the Confederates, he grew in understanding throughout the war years and after the rebellion he was one of the first and strongest opponents of the Democrats' Klan.

[Colonel Kangaroo]

Stevens was a communist, before the term was invented.

Stevens merely wanted to give the land to the slaves who had worked it for many years without freedom or just compensation. I call that justice, not Communism.

If we are to look for a Russian parallel, I suppose the early land reform in the wake of the popular February Revolution might be a better choice.

On the other hand, the Confederate slave system bears more resemblance to the monstrous results of Stalin's collectivization where agricultural workers were cruelly disciplined for the benefit of a nonproductive master class.

[Ditto]

So do you accept the entier Dunning School of history, or just that part of it?

[smug]

He means “Thaddeus Stevens”.....

Ole club foot, a man who opposed Lincoln and A. Johnson

[TexConfederate1861]

I’m afraid I’m not familiar with that term......

[TexConfederate1861]

I really am beginning to suspect that you have socialist leanings.....

Slavery was LEGAL!

Just because someone didn’t agree with it, like Stevens, that did not give them the right to destroy the social fabric of the South.

It’s a good thing we don’t live in France during the Revolution. You would probably have MY head on a pike!