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1 posted on 04/22/2007 10:45:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Another righteous Amen brother Robinson!
44 posted on 04/22/2007 11:08:00 PM PDT by afnamvet (It is what it is)
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Might we add a series of collector cards about his record on terrorist attacks? Here is just the beginning of the research in that regard:

Daniel Pipes included Giuliani in his article about “ostriches” who denied domestic terrorism.

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16926

Key excerpt: Law enforcement seems more concerned to avoid an anti-Muslim backlash than to find the culprits. This attitude of denial fits an all-too-common pattern. I have previously documented a reluctance in nearby New York City to see as terrorism the 1994 Brooklyn Bridge (“road rage” was the FBI’s preferred description) and the 1997 Empire State Building shootings (“many, many enemies in his mind,” said Rudolph Giuliani). Likewise, the July 2002 LAX murders were initially dismissed as “a work dispute” and the October 2002 rampage of the Beltway snipers went unexplained, leaving the media to ascribe it to such factors as a “stormy [family] relationship.”

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Here’s more from Pipes on one of the pre-9/11 terrorist attacks on NY under Giuliani’s watch (which he used as a platform to call for stricter national gun control):

Ali Hasan Abu Kamal, a Palestinian gunman hailing from militant Islamic circles in Florida, took a gun to the top of the Empire State building in February 1997 and shot a tourist there. His suicide note accused the United States of using Israel as its “instrument” against the Palestinians but city officials ignored this evidence and instead dismissed Abu Kamal as either “one deranged individual working on his own” (Police Commissioner Howard Safir) or a “man who had many, many enemies in his mind” (Mayor Rudolph Giuliani).

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0702/pipes1.asp

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Here’s information on an earlier terrorist attack on NYC while Giuliani was mayor:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9801E2DD113AF936A35750C0A962958260

Key excerpt: The Mayor’s urgency to quash the widespread reports of a link between the shooting suspect and the well-known terrorist organization fit a pattern he established immediately after the Tuesday shootings. From the beginning, he personally took control of all briefings on the matter, often appearing with the Police Commissioner at his side, and took pains to dampen the rumors that might pit one ethnic group against another or raise the city’s level of fear.

Even now, Mr. Giuliani and the Police Department have refused to discuss the question of a motive in the van shootings, which left one student brain-dead, another in poor condition and two others with less serious wounds. Though many Hasidim say they are certain the students were shot because they are Jews, the police say they have not determined the shooting was anti-Semitic.

Yesterday morning, Mr. Giuliani met for 40 minutes with a group of Arab restaurateurs, business owners and community leaders from Brooklyn. He told them that Arabs as a group should not be blamed for the shooting, and the Arab leaders put out a statement expressing condolences to the families of the victims and noting that Arabs were instrumental in contributing information that led to Mr. Baz’s arrest.

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This particular attacker was linked to a hotbed of Brooklyn Islamofascism centered in Bay Ridge. But Giuliani didn’t follow up to see if there was a wider pattern of Islamofascist attacks being planned/supported/funded there — he treated the shooting as an isolated crime, tried to avoid admitting any links to terrorism, and met with leaders of Brooklyn’s Arab community. Giuliani’s record on Islamofascist attacks when he was in charge is not good.


50 posted on 04/22/2007 11:14:38 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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Rudy is left wing, baby killing SCUM!


58 posted on 04/22/2007 11:16:32 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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This is going to upset a few of RINO Rudy’s supporters around here, assuming they haven’t migrated to more liberal places on the internet....


68 posted on 04/22/2007 11:24:52 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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And there ‘tis...


77 posted on 04/22/2007 11:37:13 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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Um...Jim...the admin mods are going to ban you for spamming. Is that what you want? Come to your senses man, before it is too late... < /s >


80 posted on 04/22/2007 11:42:43 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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Great stuff. Credit to Spiff for the chart and someone (flashbunny?) for putting this together.


86 posted on 04/22/2007 11:58:39 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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Good work gentlemen.

And thank you Jim for starting to put a handle on this ridiculous business of conservative being a dirty word amongst some.


94 posted on 04/23/2007 12:25:21 AM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)
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Another great post, Jim!

There's nothing that will trip a politician up faster than to use his own words against him! IMO, it will be the downfall of Rudy.

102 posted on 04/23/2007 1:03:58 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS A TRUE CONSERVATIVE!!)
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That’s all good and fine as we are still in the primary season and debate of this nature is healthy.

But if we end up with a Hillary vs Rudy scenario next year, we cannot afford to have the Democrats take the White House.

If it comes down to it, the battle against Islamofascism is more important than Rudy’s leftist leanings on social issues.

Jim, if it is the case that Rudy gets the GOP nod, I really do hope that you do not allow this site to turn into a platform for Constitution/Libertarian Party nuts that would play the role of spoiler for Hillary. And I hope that you would pledge support for whoever the Republican nominee for President may be.


104 posted on 04/23/2007 1:15:06 AM PDT by RWR8189 (Fred Thompson for President)
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...agreed!


105 posted on 04/23/2007 1:15:33 AM PDT by familyop
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The issue over Rudy is one that defines the line between true conservatives and the GOP. The GOP is flirting with a schism between it's moderates and it's actual base with Rudy Guiliani. I will not support Guiliani in the primaries, no way, no how.
126 posted on 04/23/2007 2:12:35 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Bump


129 posted on 04/23/2007 2:38:17 AM PDT by sport
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Giuliani would better serve America in New Orleans or Miami, but it’d take Conservatives at least a decade to over the damage Giuliani would inflict if he were put in Washington.


130 posted on 04/23/2007 3:21:07 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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We couldn’t agree more! Great THREAD!


138 posted on 04/23/2007 5:02:28 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag!)
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Woo-Hoo! And another liberal Rudy troll bites the dust.


145 posted on 04/23/2007 5:21:44 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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Never give up, never surrender, never rudy.


154 posted on 04/23/2007 6:09:00 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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Am I the first to say?, He’s dead Jim. Blackbird.


159 posted on 04/23/2007 6:15:58 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (A vote for rudyputin IS a vote for the hildabeast!)
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While I agree with your assessment of Mayor Giuliani, his nomination will be a dagger in the heart of the Republican Party, not the conservative movement.
170 posted on 04/23/2007 6:54:46 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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Nice chart. Do you have one that shows where all the other candidates stand on those issues?


187 posted on 04/23/2007 8:38:40 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (What's with nearly eighty degrees in April? Am I in Seattle, or Los Angeles?)
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