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Even after E-Bay clearly told ABC the purchases were of "empty magazine clips,” these reporters from ABC's "Law and Justice Unit" accuse E-Bay of illegally selling ammunition online!

Ammunition is a bullet, a cartridge case, a primer and some powder combined into a "round' of ammunition ready to be fired. A "magazine" or "clip" is what a "round of ammunition" is loaded into.

That mistake is the same as confusing a gas tank for 20 gallons of gasoline or an empty airliner for 300 passengers!

Sales of ammunition online is very illegal.

The sale of "magazines" or "clips" is perfectly legal, routine and unremarkable.

This is simply another case of unqualified reporters taking their own prejudice and complete lack of knowledge, and lying to 300,000,000 Americans about an important story.

And they wonder why MSM is losing viewers so quickly...

1 posted on 04/22/2007 10:41:16 AM PDT by MindBender26
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Ammo From E-Bay? (ABC News Doesn't Know "Clip" From "Ammo." Accuses E-Bay of Selling Ammo Online!)

They know.

Socialists Lie™ .

2 posted on 04/22/2007 10:46:31 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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We were also told that he used high capacity magazines that were banned under the assault weapons ban act of 1993.


3 posted on 04/22/2007 10:47:05 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney-Bolton 2008)
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Actually, it is perfectly legal to by ammunition online and have it shipped to your home by a carrier.


4 posted on 04/22/2007 10:48:26 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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The AP and FOX made this mistake too but fixed it...i wonder if they sleep at the wheel at ABC because they have not corrected their error. Then we have to wonder how many stories they inaccurately report, don’t we?


6 posted on 04/22/2007 10:48:48 AM PDT by TheBethsterNH (...in Northern Massachusetts, formerly known as New Hampshire.)
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It's my understanding that a clip is used to insert a strip of rounds into a magazine.

Handgun ammunition is usually sold by the box.

7 posted on 04/22/2007 10:49:01 AM PDT by FoxInSocks
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Sales of ammunition online is very illegal.

Since when has buying ammo online been illegal?

9 posted on 04/22/2007 10:50:57 AM PDT by 03A3
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O’donnell on the Mclaughlin Group this morning, was similarly stupid about guns, saying that Cho was spraying bullets like a machine gun with his semi-AUTOMATIC pistols. He was apparently unaware that semi-automatics have one trigger pull per shot.


10 posted on 04/22/2007 10:51:00 AM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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Sales of ammunition online is very illegal..........Sorry but , no, sale of ammo online is not illegal!


11 posted on 04/22/2007 10:51:15 AM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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A "magazine" or "clip" is what a "round of ammunition" is loaded into.

Correct, to a point.

Clips and Magazines

A "clip" and a "magazine" are not the same. "Clips" and "magazines" do not serve the same purpose.

A "clip" is a device used to load cartridges into a magazine.*

A "magazine" is a device which feeds cartridges into a firearm.

*Exceptions include "full moon" and "half moon" clips used by some revolvers.



To the left is an image of an "en-bloc" clip.

This particular type of en-bloc clip is used to load cartridges into the magazine of the M1 Garand .30 Caliber rifle.

The clip pictured holds eight rounds (two stacks of four).

Here we see an M1 Garand being loaded. The en-bloc clip, holding the cartridges, is inserted into the magazine.

After the last round is fired, the en-bloc clip is ejected from the magazine.

Note: The Garands' magazine cannot be loaded without the use of an en-bloc clip.

Here we see what are commonly referred to as "stripper" clips.

The clips in this image are (most often) used to load the SKS Carbine.

The SKS "stripper" clip fits into a slot in the face of the SKS bolt carrier. The rounds are pushed downward into the magazine, stripping them from the clip (hence the term "stripper" clip).

After the rounds have been inserted into the magazine, the clip is removed. The bolt carrier handle is then pulled fully to the rear and released, chambering a round.

Note: The SKS magazine can also be loaded using individual rounds.

The image to the left is of a 30-round detachable magazine for the AK-47  assault rifle.

It can also be used in civilian (semi-automatic only) AK-47 look-alikes, such as the WASR-10.

As you can see, it bears no resemblence to a clip.

This magazine uses a spring loaded follower, to feed cartridges into the firearm.


The device to the left (two views) is often referred to as a "magazine loader" or "clip guide".

This particular device allows the AK-47s' detachable magazines to be loaded via SKS stripper clips.

The "magazine loader" fits on/over the top of the magazine. The SKS stripper clip fits into the guide slot (the thin part which protrudes from the top of the magazine loader).

The rounds are then pushed downward, loading the magazine.


Here we see two images of stripper clips for the Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE). The British refer to these clips as "chargers".

Note:  The SMLE was issued with a single detachable 10-round box magazine. The magazine was to be removed for cleaning purposes only.

Loading of the magazine can be done with individual rounds, and/or through the use of five-round "chargers", seen here.

The SMLE "charger" is used in a manner very similar to the SKS stripper clip.

With the bolt open, the SMLE "charger" is placed in a slot in the rifles' receiver. The rounds are then pushed downward, "charging" the magazine. After the rounds have been stripped from the "charger" (clip), it is removed.


To the left are stripper clips (top) and a detachable magazine (bottom) for the M1 .30 Carbine.

In the top image, the straight devices are the clips (front and back views). The flared device to the right is a clip guide.

The function of the M1 Carbine clip guide is very similar to that of the AK-47 magazine loader.

The wide end of the M1 Carbine clip guide slides onto the M1 Carbine magazine (mating with the grooves towards the back of the magazine). The .30 Carbine stripper clip, holding ten rounds, is inserted into the narrow end of the clip guide. The rounds are then pushed downward, into the magazine.

(From my Freeper homepage)

13 posted on 04/22/2007 10:53:21 AM PDT by holymoly (With an anti-gun Congress, we must have a pro-gun President. www.gohunter08.com)
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What can we expect. This is the same network that told us that VP Cheney shot a lawyer in the face with buck shot.
15 posted on 04/22/2007 10:54:20 AM PDT by SHOOT THE MOON bat ("Aggressive fighting for the right is the noblest sport the world affords" Teddy Roosevelt)
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These are clips, with and without ammo


20 posted on 04/22/2007 10:59:12 AM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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It is also perfectly legal to sell ammo on line. You can buy ammor from Cabelas online or over the phone or simply by mailing in an order form. Nothing illegal about it. It is simply the DBM trying to stir people up so they can get repressive gun laws passed.


25 posted on 04/22/2007 11:08:03 AM PDT by calex59
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Who cares if they sell ammo, magazines and clips on ebay?

Where’s the story?

32 posted on 04/22/2007 11:17:29 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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I’ve been trying to find out how many rounds he had in total.

Each gun came with two clips each. With the additional 2 clips for the .22 that would be six clips total.

The 9mm clips had a 15 round capacity and the .22 10.

Fully loaded he would have been able to go in there with 72 rounds including one in each chamber.

I read they have found evidence 168 rounds were fired but say it could be as many as 175 to 225 shots fired. That means he had to reload many times after he used up his intial rounds.

33 posted on 04/22/2007 11:17:56 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (Free Darfur!)
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As far as ANY story on ABC about ANY topic is concerned we might well ask:

Has the Anything But Credible network ever reported any story accurately?

47 posted on 04/22/2007 11:45:11 AM PDT by Rockpile
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EBay is meticulous about prohibiting auctions of ammunition. Does anybody have the link to the “inert brass” auction that was a thread on FR?


51 posted on 04/22/2007 11:57:17 AM PDT by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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Sales of ammunition online is very illegal.

Huh? I've purchased ammunition online before, but it has been a number of years... I know that I used to by able to buy it through "cheaper than dirt" and a number of other on-line vendors. Did the laws change while I wasn't looking?

Mark

55 posted on 04/22/2007 12:00:02 PM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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...magazine clips...

Almost as inexcusable as gun enthusiasts who don't know the difference between a magazine and a clip. Furthermore, there isn't any device called a "magazine clip" at all.

63 posted on 04/22/2007 12:14:07 PM PDT by GingisK
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Sales of ammunition online is very illegal.

I suppose you should let the people at MidwayUSA, Cheaper Than Dirt, Cabela's, Natchez Shooter's Supply and many others know that little detail. They all sell ammo online. It's not illegal.

The news media is just brain dead when it comes to issues of firearms and ammo. The Fox news reporter said Cho "sprayed bullets all over". Idiot.

71 posted on 04/22/2007 12:38:28 PM PDT by Myrddin
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ABC assumes it’s simple minded viewers don’t know the difference between clips and ammo, ABc knows damned well what they are saying


73 posted on 04/22/2007 12:48:59 PM PDT by StoneColdTaxHater
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