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Ammo From E-Bay? (ABC News Doesn't Know "Clip" From "Ammo." Accuses E-Bay of Selling Ammo Online!)
ABC News ^ | CHRISTOPHER FRANCESCANI and JAY SHAYLOR

Posted on 04/22/2007 10:41:12 AM PDT by MindBender26

April 21, 2007 — In the months before his shooting spree at Virginia Tech, Seung-Hui Cho purchased two ammunition clips through the online auction site eBay, ABCNews has learned.

An eBay spokesman confirmed the sale to the Associated Press late today after separate investigations by ABCNews and the Associated Press uncovered the existence of Cho's auction account.

"It's apparent that he purchased the empty magazine clips," eBay spokesman Hani Durzy told the AP. "They're similar to what could be purchased in any sporting goods store around the country."

Cho apparently purchased a two-pack of 10-round ammunition clips for a Walther P22 on March 22, 2007, less than a month before killing 32 people and himself at Virginia Tech. The ammunition was purchased on eBay from Elk Ridge Shooting Supplies. Police have said Cho used a Walther P22 during his bloody rampage Monday.

In addition to purchasing ammunition online, Cho appears to have sold used copies of books filled with violent themes and overtones on an eBay affiliated Web site called half.com.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: plausibledeniability; trysellingthetruth
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To: Pajama Blogger
beautifully illustrated

Thank you.

41 posted on 04/22/2007 11:28:03 AM PDT by holymoly (With an anti-gun Congress, we must have a pro-gun President. www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Glocks do not feed off of “clips”, they feed off of magazines.

And he had more than four magazines, or so the reports say. They also mention that he was using the 30 or 33 round magazines that are available for purchase.


42 posted on 04/22/2007 11:31:07 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Holy shit. Read #27 above. You could buy 34 round glock 18 mags during the “ban” as long as they were manufactured before 1994.
43 posted on 04/22/2007 11:31:17 AM PDT by Comus (There is no honor in dying with your sword sheathed)
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To: Spktyr
Mags, clips I think you get the drift.

I haven’t found a report that says he definitely had used a high capacity clip, do you have a link?

44 posted on 04/22/2007 11:35:07 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (Free Darfur!)
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To: Comus
You could buy 34 round glock 18 mags during the “ban” as long as they were manufactured before 1994.

Yep, new and used.

45 posted on 04/22/2007 11:36:18 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (Free Darfur!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Since he used Glocks, getting a high-capacity “clip” would be impossible.

Getting a high capacity magazine would not.


46 posted on 04/22/2007 11:37:45 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: MindBender26
As far as ANY story on ABC about ANY topic is concerned we might well ask:

Has the Anything But Credible network ever reported any story accurately?

47 posted on 04/22/2007 11:45:11 AM PDT by Rockpile
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To: ASOC
Forward a copy to numbnutz at ABC/NBC/See BS.
I doubt they would learn anything from it tho....they would have to want to learn.

In the past, I've tried explaining to "journalists" why a semi-automatic-only rifle isn't an "assault rifle".

Talk about an exercise in futility.

They don't know anything about firearms, and aren't the least bit interested in learning.

48 posted on 04/22/2007 11:46:15 AM PDT by holymoly (With an anti-gun Congress, we must have a pro-gun President. www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Eagles6
That’s what I thought.

However, It is not legal to ship firearms and ammo in the same package.

AND, it is not legal to ship firearms except from one FFL license holder to another FFL license holder.

I remember this from my younger days when I worked at UPS. Boxes fall apart sometimes...it couldn’t be helped. When a firearm was discovered(it happened more often than you would expect), it had to be turned over to management. Then they contacted the ATF or the FBI, I forget which. IF there were any violation, they sent an undercover agent to UPS and dressed him up in UPS uniform and sent him to the address in a UPS truck. Whoever signed for the package was arrested.

49 posted on 04/22/2007 11:49:59 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Comus

G18 mags are either 31 or 33 rounds depending on whether it has a +2 magazine extension or not. It’s possible to load 34 rounds maximum into the pistol, but the magazine will not hold that many.


50 posted on 04/22/2007 11:54:35 AM PDT by xander
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To: MindBender26

EBay is meticulous about prohibiting auctions of ammunition. Does anybody have the link to the “inert brass” auction that was a thread on FR?


51 posted on 04/22/2007 11:57:17 AM PDT by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Perdogg
I don’t think the media’s stunt with the firearms issue is going anywhere in this report. Even gun control advocates are not buying into it.

A guy that professed to be a gun control advocate told me that he didn’t think this was the proper case to be used to increase gun restrictions. His reasoning was that cho was so deranged that he simply would have built a bomb if there were no guns available to him. So he reasons that cho’s accessibility to handguns may have actually saved lives since he would have potentially killed more with a bomb.

52 posted on 04/22/2007 11:57:33 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
"However, It is not legal to ship firearms and ammo in the same package. AND, it is not legal to ship firearms except from one FFL license holder to another FFL license holder."

I believe that you are correct.

53 posted on 04/22/2007 11:58:43 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: holymoly

The average non gun owning person already thinks a 15 round glock is an assult weapon.


54 posted on 04/22/2007 11:58:58 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: MindBender26
Sales of ammunition online is very illegal.

Huh? I've purchased ammunition online before, but it has been a number of years... I know that I used to by able to buy it through "cheaper than dirt" and a number of other on-line vendors. Did the laws change while I wasn't looking?

Mark

55 posted on 04/22/2007 12:00:02 PM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: TYVets

They are probably doing us a favor. We don’t need records on the internet of every ammo purchase made in the US.


56 posted on 04/22/2007 12:00:14 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Comus

Alot of them were junk too...manufactured in haste just before the ban took effect...no quality control.

I know, I got burnt on a few for a berretta 92.


57 posted on 04/22/2007 12:02:05 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Perdogg
The one magazine that was most affected by the ban was 25 and 50 rd. mags for the Ruger 10-22. They were selling for more than the price of the gun.

At the same time you could buy 30 rd AK clone mags for $10 and 75 rd drums for $100.

58 posted on 04/22/2007 12:02:58 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: umgud

What’s the make and model and caliber of that pistol?


59 posted on 04/22/2007 12:03:57 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: 03A3

Not since Friday, when I had 500 rounds of Wolf .223 delivered to my door by UPS.


60 posted on 04/22/2007 12:09:12 PM PDT by Renegade
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