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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, let me try one Hail Mary pass to reform Rudy, although Hail Mary passes have a very low completion rate. As mayor of NY, Rudy was in one of the biggest liberal cesspools on earth. The fact that he did reform the NY crime situation and the budget in a total left wing climate are good signs.

But as mayor of that city he was going to support liberal policies. For example, no way he wouldn't want federal welfare for illegals, because he had a ton of them living in his city.

Will he become more conservative as he runs for the whole country, not just NYC? I think the only honest answer is he will somewhat, but not on all the issues. Many of them he will stick with just to show that he is consistent. So the best hope is that Thompson overtakes him because most people here don't like McCain and who else is going to do it?

327 posted on 04/21/2007 8:03:30 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams
Good effort.

The problem is we are not voting for mayor of a city, but for the presidency. How many mayors have been elected to the White House? That’s about the lowest level governmental position you can get.

You correctly described the Giuliani approach to big city problems. I agree with you that there was more good than bad during his tenure, but certainly not enough to gain him the presidency. His liberal views are not nearly as important when serving as a mayor, and he could certainly serve well in some cabinet posts.

That being said, Rudy is not a friend of gunowners. To have press conferences with the Brady’s and Schumer does not make him a friend, but an enemy to me. Gun rights are paramount.

Rudy is a cosmopolitan. I’ll be kind. He isn’t the kind of man I want leading the country. There is very little difference between him and liberal Democrats on anything at all. We don’t know what he would do with the WOT. He was a mayor. But he isn’t even as conservative as Bush, who is no conservative. My best.

362 posted on 04/21/2007 8:13:20 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Williams
"fact that he did reform the NY crime situation and the budget in a total left wing climate are good signs."

Ya' know, that just don't wash, no mo'. You Rudy supporters have been getting away with that "Rudy brought crime down" stuff for too long. As a, then, resident of NY, I can tell you, it's just not true. You sound like the Clintons did about the economy, when, in fact, they inherited an already improving economy. Here is a graph showing that crime was already, quickly, on it's way down.

NYC is in red.


:O)

P

Run, FRED, run!

568 posted on 04/21/2007 9:01:37 PM PDT by papasmurf (Name me one nation that taxed itself into prosperity. Run, FRED, run!)
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To: Williams

I worry that once the ‘StarGate Portal’ to the presidency includes a successful mayoralship of New York City, look who’s ‘blooming’ on the horizon.


2,401 posted on 04/22/2007 12:00:06 PM PDT by budwiesest (We need a 'divider' this time around. No more 'uniting'.)
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