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To: justshutupandtakeit

“Each of his (Giuliani) positions is closer to those of the American voters than are yours and the Rudyphobes here.”

So the American people want abortions federally funded. So the American people want open borders. So the American people want radical “Act Up” gays influencing our society and exposing our children to this “accepted behavior”. So Americans want illegal criminals immigrants getting aid and be protected by mayors like Giuliani all over this country?

“His views are not extreme.”

Extremist leftists may agree, or people willing to sell out to win an election.


10,523 posted on 04/25/2007 8:32:40 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell'm I'm comin - and I'm bringin Hell with me")
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To: rbmillerjr
So the American people want abortions federally funded. So the American people want open borders.

Almost certainly, yes to both.

So the American people want radical “Act Up” gays influencing our society and exposing our children to this “accepted behavior”. So Americans want illegal criminals immigrants getting aid and be protected by mayors like Giuliani all over this country?

Probably not - but they also want most people to be left alone by the government, most of the time.

10,528 posted on 04/25/2007 8:35:42 PM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: rbmillerjr

“So the American people want abortions federally funded.” The context of that was that IF it was a constitutional right then... Most Americans probably would not support that but I would say that at least 40% would.

“So the American people want radical “Act Up” gays influencing our society and exposing our children to this “accepted behavior”.” That is a exaggerated picture of his beliefs in this area. But again there is a large percentage which would agree with your caricature.

“So Americans want illegal criminals immigrants getting aid and be protected by mayors like Giuliani all over this country?” That was part of the price of Giuliani being able to reduce the crime rate in NY so most big city dwellers would likely say it was worth it and welfare was not expanded under him but REDUCED. Surely you are aware that the policies of NYC at that time are almost identical with those of large cities all across the Country. Their voters apparently could care less since they keep electing mayors who do exactly the same thing.

But I am not defending any of these policies per se and have plenty of disagreements with the Mayor. I have said the same thing all along and that is I just don’t see anyone being able to take the nomination from him given the state of politics in America today. This has apparently become a Thought Crime.


10,575 posted on 04/25/2007 8:53:11 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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