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To: rbmillerjr

“So the American people want abortions federally funded.” The context of that was that IF it was a constitutional right then... Most Americans probably would not support that but I would say that at least 40% would.

“So the American people want radical “Act Up” gays influencing our society and exposing our children to this “accepted behavior”.” That is a exaggerated picture of his beliefs in this area. But again there is a large percentage which would agree with your caricature.

“So Americans want illegal criminals immigrants getting aid and be protected by mayors like Giuliani all over this country?” That was part of the price of Giuliani being able to reduce the crime rate in NY so most big city dwellers would likely say it was worth it and welfare was not expanded under him but REDUCED. Surely you are aware that the policies of NYC at that time are almost identical with those of large cities all across the Country. Their voters apparently could care less since they keep electing mayors who do exactly the same thing.

But I am not defending any of these policies per se and have plenty of disagreements with the Mayor. I have said the same thing all along and that is I just don’t see anyone being able to take the nomination from him given the state of politics in America today. This has apparently become a Thought Crime.


10,575 posted on 04/25/2007 8:53:11 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Jim Robinson

I’ve been away, and missed quite a few posts. /understatement. I was surprised upon my return to see that Free Republic is still being used for false advertising on behalf of Rudy. I thought the lemmings would be done jumping off the cliff by now.


10,593 posted on 04/25/2007 9:01:56 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

“So the American people want abortions federally funded.” The context of that was that IF it was a constitutional right then... Most Americans probably would not support that but I would say that at least 40% would.”

Your earlier contention was that Giuliani’s policies were closer to what American wanted than those at FR.

“So the American people want radical “Act Up” gays influencing our society and exposing our children to this “accepted behavior”.” That is a exaggerated picture of his beliefs in this area. But again there is a large percentage which would agree with your caricature.”

Again numbers favor FR being more in touch than Giuliani.

“So Americans want illegal criminals immigrants getting aid and be protected by mayors like Giuliani all over this country?” That was part of the price of Giuliani being able to reduce the crime rate in NY so most big city dwellers would likely say it was worth it and welfare was not expanded under him but REDUCED. Surely you are aware that the policies of NYC at that time are almost identical with those of large cities all across the Country. Their voters apparently could care less since they keep electing mayors who do exactly the same thing.”

You’re not denying the liberal policy, just giving his rationale.

But I am not defending any of these policies per se and have plenty of disagreements with the Mayor. I have said the same thing all along and that is I just don’t see anyone being able to take the nomination from him given the state of politics in America today. This has apparently become a Thought Crime.

This is the first I’ve seen you take on the issues and say you don’t agree with them. Earlier today you clearly stated that Giuliani’s views were closer to the American people’s view than the FR board.

So, why are you always trying to demonize FR, is it because you lost friends to the zap list. (Listen don’t even answer that, I’m just glad that you are looking at issues)


10,599 posted on 04/25/2007 9:04:05 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell'm I'm comin - and I'm bringin Hell with me")
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