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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Dominic Harr

I disagree with Rudy’s position on abortion. That’s one of the many reasons I’ll never vote for the baby-killing, homo-loving, gun-grabbing, cross-dressing’ etc.


7,581 posted on 04/24/2007 2:27:51 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Dominic Harr

FR is not a liberal debating society. Arguing a case for abortion will reserve you a place in hell as far as I’m concerned.

Hope that answers your question. Now stop wasting my time.


7,582 posted on 04/24/2007 2:27:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
And it looks to me like your plan B involves trying to pickup support from the left.

Which would be quite difficult for Rudy running as a pro-war pubbie leftwards into stronger and stronger opposition to the war.

Which means, IMO, that Rudy would have to come out against the Iraq War to have a chance of winning the general if he picks up the nomination.

7,583 posted on 04/24/2007 2:28:06 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: dirtboy

And sorry, again, none of those things get to me or bother me. Even the first Bush did nothing about abortion, and he was less conservative than this Bush. While I agree that the President’s views matter, I don’t think he or she is truly able to DO anything about it. I’d be happy with less abortions, but I’m also a realist.

Good Luck with the Duncan Hunter thing. I was wondering if his son would like to be pinged to this thread; would love to have his thoughts and Dad’s thoughts on this whole thread.


7,584 posted on 04/24/2007 2:28:18 PM PDT by merry10
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

The rest are all very important. But w/o those 4 items, you should not even be in the hunt.


7,585 posted on 04/24/2007 2:28:50 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Spiff

I may be wrong, but I have found two interpretations of the rule. One said a candidate has to be on a ballot, the other said that any “legally qualified candidate” would trigger the rule.

The networks tend to go by the more conservative, from what I understand. This is why cable channels usually stick close to the rules so as not to invite regulation. The HBO movie that Thompson is starring in during the latter half of May might be a factor, as well.


7,586 posted on 04/24/2007 2:28:50 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Bring something to eat when you come back. We’re hungry here.


7,587 posted on 04/24/2007 2:29:43 PM PDT by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger.)
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To: Pharmboy

More gun grabber education needed.


7,588 posted on 04/24/2007 2:29:45 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: merry10

Have you not noticed that any time “equal” rights are declared, that means a group becomes a federally protected “special” class? We all have God given “equal” rights as God’s children. People of all nations and all tribes and all tongues are part of God’s Kingdom. All we have to do is follow Him. When we resort to a Pagan society, we only have God to fear.


7,589 posted on 04/24/2007 2:31:13 PM PDT by del4hope (If your candidate doesn't respect an unborn life, they don't respect your life either.)
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To: merry10
And sorry, again, none of those things get to me or bother me.

Well, with Rudy, there is also his support of CFR, his second-term spending, his pushing Bernie Kerik for the most important anti-terror job in the country, his trying to pull ads from city buses critical of him, his endorsement of human-caused global warming, his admiration of Ahnold's style of governing, his defiance of federal law and federal court orders to keep NYC's sanctuary city policy, and his fight to keep welfare benefits coming to immigrants against state and federal guidelines.

Anything in that list cause you problems?

7,590 posted on 04/24/2007 2:31:14 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Dominic Harr
Since you believe that government restrictions on abortion are inconsistent with conservatism, I have to conclude that during the 150 years when abortion was illegal in every state in the union this country was a bastion nanny-state liberalism.

I'm relieved to learn that the wholesale slaughter of the unborn over the past 40 years has led us closer to "conservatism".

7,591 posted on 04/24/2007 2:32:34 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: Kevmo
The Big issues are the socon issues, to be put in first. The little issues are things that can be accommodated around the bigger stuff. A candidate who tries to focus on the smaller issues first and leave out the bigger issues has no way of getting all of us into the tent. He splits the party. The candidate who gets the big stuff right and as much of the little stuff that will fit, he can fit more into the tent. We’re often amazed at how much rice can keep fitting in. Rudy Giuliani flunks some of the big issues, and on some of the little issues it looks to me like anyone else’s rice would do just as well.

Good analogy from one of the best posts here. I signed up just a few months after you did, and it wasn't long before the "news"magazines disappeared from our house. We never did have a TV. We still get the newspaper, but I spend 5 minutes max with it. This is where I get news and informed commmentary--along with a bunch of other stuff, but I'd rather it not be leftist "get over your issues" mess.

7,592 posted on 04/24/2007 2:32:45 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: BykrBayb
That’s one of the many reasons I’ll never vote for the baby-killing, homo-loving, gun-grabbing, cross-dressing’ etc.

:-D

7,593 posted on 04/24/2007 2:32:48 PM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: pissant

Pissant, you know what this thread needs.


7,594 posted on 04/24/2007 2:33:01 PM PDT by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger.)
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To: dirtboy

That’s absolutely right and I’m 100% positive that he will. He’ll announce that we’ve acheived victory and it’s time to bring our victorious boys home ala Richard Nixon. And then killing fields begin.


7,595 posted on 04/24/2007 2:33:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Dominic Harr
Good. I hoped you'd enjoy that. J
7,596 posted on 04/24/2007 2:34:05 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Jim Robinson
Now stop wasting my time.

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Um -- okay, shall do. Sorry about that, I wasn't aware I was buggin you.

7,597 posted on 04/24/2007 2:34:58 PM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: presently no screen name
There are many others than can promote Jim's cause and YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM.

Hmmm = Spiff - member since 1997. You - member since 2005.

Methinks Spiff has a bit more experience on FR than you do. Ain't too many members of the Class of 97 here.

The mob squad here has been doing an 'over the top' slamming of some good conservative long time freepers

Good conservative freepers?

Such as folks saying a president can't do anything about abortion?

Too bad for them SCOTUS upheld the PBA ban last week. It put the lie to that Rudy talking point. And showed just how important it is to have a pro-life president instead of a slug with a 100 percent NARAL rating who addressed them twice and praised eugenicist Margaret Sanger.

Of course, they just went back to claiming Fred is pro-choice, even though Fred has a 0 NARAL rating...

7,598 posted on 04/24/2007 2:35:05 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: No.6; Jim Robinson
“Stay home? Not me. I’m going to fight him tooth and nail!”

Please don’t take this wrong, but that wasn’t the question. I agree 100% with fighting to keep Rudy from being the nominee. The question, though, was what if (God forbid) August ‘08 has come around and Rudy’s won the nomination, and the Dims have of course nominated some nightmare also. In this hypothetical, what’s your recommendation?

This scenario appears repeatedly in these threads, understandably so. However, I believe it is a false dilemma, and ultimately lands one in a trap.

It is essential to realise that, as far as the RNC and Republican Party leadership is concerned, once you have uttered the words "but I'll support the party's nominee no matter what", then nothing else you have to say from that point on matters to them. You will have blinked first and they will have won the game of "electoral chicken".

The proper response is to let them know who is absolutely unacceptable, under any circumstances, as the leader of this forum has done. This puts the monkey on their back to find and field an acceptable candidate.

It's a dangerous strategy, but it's the only way to avoid being marginalized into irrelevance. Anything else is simply capitulation.

7,599 posted on 04/24/2007 2:35:34 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (I love dialoging. It's a great way to pick up chicks! (*obscure cinema refence - all rights reserved)
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To: Maximus of Texas

T & A?


7,600 posted on 04/24/2007 2:35:57 PM PDT by pissant
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