Please don’t take this wrong, but that wasn’t the question. I agree 100% with fighting to keep Rudy from being the nominee. The question, though, was what if (God forbid) August ‘08 has come around and Rudy’s won the nomination, and the Dims have of course nominated some nightmare also. In this hypothetical, what’s your recommendation?
This scenario appears repeatedly in these threads, understandably so. However, I believe it is a false dilemma, and ultimately lands one in a trap.
It is essential to realise that, as far as the RNC and Republican Party leadership is concerned, once you have uttered the words "but I'll support the party's nominee no matter what", then nothing else you have to say from that point on matters to them. You will have blinked first and they will have won the game of "electoral chicken".
The proper response is to let them know who is absolutely unacceptable, under any circumstances, as the leader of this forum has done. This puts the monkey on their back to find and field an acceptable candidate.
It's a dangerous strategy, but it's the only way to avoid being marginalized into irrelevance. Anything else is simply capitulation.
It is ironic - a lot of the Rudy boosters turn around and question blacks for their uncritical support of the Dems. And we all know what that has done for them.
If a party knows it has your vote without trying to earn it, it doesn't have to care about your views any longer.
“but I’ll support the party’s nominee no matter what”,
Exactly right. Why should the RNC pay any attention after you have said that?
This scenario appears repeatedly in these threads, understandably so. However, I believe it is a false dilemma,
***Did I hear FALSE DILEMMA? Time for the rudybots to answer their own false dilemma. Here’s one that I routinely post and get crickets.
Hildebeast is eminently beatable, this nonsense about rudy being the only one who can beat her is horse manure and impolite on this socon forum. For example, this article:
“Long Shot GOP Candidate Brownback Just Five Points Behind Clinton”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1798666/posts
We know that it simply means it’s very early in the race and that even no-name candidates are only 5 points behind Clinton. So the rudybots should stop supporting a social liberal on this social conservative forum and pick a real winner, rather than a ridiculous loser liberal like rudy.
The 2 polls on Free Republic put forth an obvious SOCON (only Hunter fits that description given) versus a SOLIB (it certainly fits rudy).
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=171
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=172
Rudy splits the base.
I have noticed time and again that rudy supporters rudely send up the false dilemma of “who would you vote for, Hildebeast or Rudy”. This particularly impolite at this early of a point in the primary cycle. Since this is a socon forum (not even a GOP forum), it is very impolite to ask double-bind questions, especially this early in the race.
Since team rudy is so fond of its own false dilemma, I would expect them to answer this false dilemma.
My contention: If rudy gets the nomination, he splits the base, possibly splits the republican party, and loses the election.
Rudy followers’ contention: If Hunter gets it, he wins the base and loses the election.
Hypothetical to answer the rudy followers’ hypothetical. Both sides losing to Hillary.
Side A: The solib republican splits the base. The MSM turns on him the moment he is nominated. Hillary wins. Republican party is split.
Side B: The socon republican wins the nomination, loses to hildebeast in a tough fight. Republicans are united against the hillary presidency.
Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?
Win-Win false dilemma:
Side A: Solib wins presidency by ignoring the socon base and permanently splitting the republican party.
Side B: SoCon wins presidency by (obviously) relying on the socon base.
Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?
Regardless of who wins or loses, Free Republic and the republican party is better off with Duncan Hunter than Rudy as the candidate. This social liberal candidate is simply not healthy for the republican party nor for FR. And rudy followers are proving to be very impolite freepers.
Duncan Hunter’s campaign website
http://www.gohunter08.com/
I tried a similar approach last weekend, when shopping at the flea market. I found an adorable relish tray, for only $4. I asked the vender "Would you take three?" Before he could answer, I told him "I'll pay whatever your price is, no matter what." I got it for only $15. I'm beginning to think that's not such a good strategy.
“It is essential to realise that, as far as the RNC and Republican Party leadership is concerned, once you have uttered the words “but I’ll support the party’s nominee no matter what”, then nothing else you have to say from that point on matters to them. You will have blinked first and they will have won the game of “electoral chicken”.”
Bears repeating.